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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-05-2012, 04:49 PM Thread Starter
 
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Ebony Fretboards. I know it's been done.

So lately I've been looking into getting a hollow body guitar and since I prefer ebony fretboards, that's been eliminating a lot of options. This, I thought, excluded Ibanez entirely as I know they won't do those. Bad news, I like Ibanez.

Then I stumbled upon the George Benson models which are listed as having ebony fretboards, which puts those rather high on the list if I can find one to try. Good news, I like Ibanez.

However, this got me thinking. Why do Ibanez do put ebony boards on boards on the GB models, but not their other guitars, especially when a lot of players seem to want them? I know I would be gassing for so many more Ibanez guitars if they had ebony boards. Anyone have the answer, or have I missed something?
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Re: Ebony Fretboards. I know it's been done.

There are a good few Ibanez soild bodied guitars that have ebony boards.
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Re: Ebony Fretboards. I know it's been done.

I know the old older JEM7v had an ebony board, but I don't know of any other current guitars with ebony boards. I may of course be over looking some. And I always thought that even LACS would do ebony boards.

EDIT: Ok, so it seems that the Pat Methany and John Scofield models have ebony boards. But then why not put them on other guitars?
Also, I'm sorry for bringing up the ebony topic again, I just wanted to try and get it cleared up for myself.
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Re: Ebony Fretboards. I know it's been done.

You still have a major point. Rich let us know in another thread that even when group-buying a run of J-Customs, which are ostensibly custom shop orders bought in bulk, you can only specify a rosewood board.

Personally, I don't see a good reason for it, but Ibanez is as Ibanez does, and it seems they hate ebony.
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Re: Ebony Fretboards. I know it's been done.

Let me clear some things up: Ibanez does not hate ebony boards. They claim that they try not to use ebony, because the ebony they have access to, is not up to Ibanez' quality standards. Ibanez says they will always use good rosewood instead of mediocre ebony, no matter how in-demand it is.
They honestly, would rather save the customer the headache of thinking they are getting ebony, which many consider to be "better", when they will be disappointed.

With that said, they have limited access to ebony on some of the Artcore sigs, as well as a very limited number of JCs.
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Re: Ebony Fretboards. I know it's been done.

I believe all 90th HAMM models ( Jem, JPM, JS) came with ebony boards as well as the RG7CST.
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Let me clear some things up: Ibanez does not hate ebony boards. They claim that they try not to use ebony, because the ebony they have access to, is not up to Ibanez' quality standards. Ibanez says they will always use good rosewood instead of mediocre ebony, no matter how in-demand it is.
They honestly, would rather save the customer the headache of thinking they are getting ebony, which many consider to be "better", when they will be disappointed.

With that said, they have limited access to ebony on some of the Artcore sigs, as well as a very limited number of JCs.
That strikes me as kind of bull**** that a multinational business doesn't have access to wood that has been known as a staple part of the high end of their industry for 60/70 years.
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That strikes me as kind of bull**** that a multinational business doesn't have access to wood that has been known as a staple part of the high end of their industry for 60/70 years.
It may be BS, but it sure isn't my BS. This is completely their statement, I was just sharing their reason. They will not use in in the LACS, and they didn't ever even do it on EVO.

Don't kill the messenger.
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It isn't BS. The really high quality, uniformly black ebony is very hard to come by. The wood has been overharvested. If you're seeing ebony on other regular production guitars, it's probably dyed black to get that appearance.
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It isn't BS. The really high quality, uniformly black ebony is very hard to come by. The wood has been overharvested. If you're seeing ebony on other regular production guitars, it's probably dyed black to get that appearance.
This^^^^

Ebony that can be bought on the open market is NEVER pure black anymore. It is loaded with lighter color streaks and some of it is even brown.

Look closely at this pic.......I don't see a single piece I'd want on my guitar.

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Re: Ebony Fretboards. I know it's been done.

Thanks for the answers, guys. Personally, I think completely black isn't always the best, and you can get some really cool looking ebony with other colours in it. I guess it's difficult to put that on a production guitar, though, as you'll end up with some truly boring boards on expensive instruments. I can also understand not using not black ebony on guitars for the sake of looks, but honestly, I think it feels just the slightest bit better than rosewood.
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This^^^^

Ebony that can be bought on the open market is NEVER pure black anymore. It is loaded with lighter color streaks and some of it is even brown.

Look closely at this pic.......I don't see a single piece I'd want on my guitar.

I have never once encountered a luthier who says the brown stuff is any worse than the pure black stuff. In fact many recommend it for visual interest.
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. . .

Look closely at this pic.......I don't see a single piece I'd want on my guitar.
Judging just by the photo, I see a few pieces I'd prefer and a couple I might reject, but if had that lovely dense, smooth feeling typical of ebony I'd enjoy playing it. I'd rather have any of those boards than a Gibson richlite guitar.

For the OP, take a look at Carvin. Gorgeous semi-hollows with ebony boards and even more custom choices.

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