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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-04-2011, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

Hey everyone. I just bought a black Epiphone G-400 (aka SG) for $200 at guitar center; which I came to think was actually a really good deal, considering the guitar is in perfect condition besides a few tiny scratches here and there..
Anyways, I was curious if anyone could explain to me the wood of the guitar. It is called mahogany, but I was reading it actually isn't a real mahogany, but "industrial mahogany" or "Indonesian mahogany". So can someone explain to me what exactly that means, how the wood compares to real mahogany, and the tonal property's, pros/cons...?
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Re: Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

my guess is that its not much different from the real thing. maybe a bit softer and the tone probably isnt quite as full. my guess is its in the mahogany family but not "actual" mahogany.

whats funny is mahogany is a rather cheap wood. i dont see the need for substitutes

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Re: Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

I would think it means farmed mahogany. I know african mahogany is used a lot in guitars, and the supply is running low of it.
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that actually makes a ton more sense than what i said haha
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Re: Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

You made a good point though, i think it is softer but because it has perfect living conditions.
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Re: Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

Well here is a statement from Wikipedia...

The Epiphone G-400 is made of Philippine/Indonesian mahogany (more commonly known as industrial mahogany), which is not actually related to the mahogany species.

and how do you mean by "farmed"
As in, people grown for mass consumption?
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Re: Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

1. Mahogany is not cheap.
2. Epiphones of this period are crap and the flat out LIE about what the guitar is, there is no mahogany in a new Epi period, just some weird asian species with poor tonal qualities.
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idk, ive never seen mahogany go for much haha maybe not in the production world where they use a ton of it but i can find huge slabs on it in lumber yards for practically nothing
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1. Mahogany is not cheap.
2. Epiphones of this period are crap and the flat out LIE about what the guitar is, there is no mahogany in a new Epi period, just some weird asian species with poor tonal qualities.
I guess its actually supposed to be "korina" which is very close to mahogany's tonal property's...not completely sure its that is fer sure the wood, but that is what I am reading.
But do you think $200 for the G-400 is a good deal either way. I know its still a budget guitar, but this thing looks brand new, and a new one is $350 and the MSRP is around $600, so I thought it was kind of a steal..(especially for a guitar center price)
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Re: Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

You paid a fair to good price. Depends on if you got a case with it or not. Either way, it is not real Korina or Mahogany.
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Nahh no case. But there is no blemishes at all on this thing. just little surface scratches. Perfect neck, the wiring is fine, no screws missing and the finish is still a "mirror shine" I can see my face in it perfect; you can't even hardly see the wood pattern through the paint its so glossy and thick! lol

So still what the hell is this thing made out of then?! I would really love to know the exact wood...
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1. Mahogany is not cheap.
2. Epiphones of this period are crap and the flat out LIE about what the guitar is, there is no mahogany in a new Epi period, just some weird asian species with poor tonal qualities.
I'd rather get a modern Epi than any Gibson from after '81.
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I'd rather get a modern Epi than any Gibson from after '81.
I just wish I got an early 2000's from Korea, but interesting...I know its wack cause its a Chinese made 'wood block'...but I am 20 years old, working to get out of my parents house...how am I gonna pull $1300 out of my wallet for a Gibson anyway? lol
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Re: Epiphone G-400..."Industrial Mahogany"???

I've heard agathis been called commercial mohogany
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I just wish I got an early 2000's from Korea, but interesting...I know its wack cause its a Chinese made 'wood block'...but I am 20 years old, working to get out of my parents house...how am I gonna pull $1300 out of my wallet for a Gibson anyway? lol
exactly, but Chinese instruments aren't all bad, and if you like the way it plays, then it's a good guitar for you. My brother had a girlfriend that lived with us for a few months, and she had a G-400 in faded brown. She almost never played, so i snatched it up when i could. the neck was super thin, and the fretboard was fairly flat. i miss the guitar A LOT more than her. lol
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