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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 02-01-2011, 03:32 PM Thread Starter
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EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

Went into Daddy's Junky Music in Manchester NH yesterday and got talking to one of the sales guys who was obviously as much an EVH gear fan as I am. He pointed out the new USA EVH (by Fender) Wolfgangs up on the wall behind the counter, so I checked it out to see if it has the same gorgeous feel of the original EBMM EVH's. I was horrified... this thing had a price tag of nearly $3K and not only was the neck not even a decent grade of maple (never mind no birdseye etc) but the frets weren't even close to being rounded off. If I had run my fingers up the side of the fretboard more than once, they would have drawn blood. I am not joking! I can honestly say that I have never seen frets as bad as this on anything, even cheap Chinese instruments of the early 90's, never mind a so-called high end USA made guitar. The Korean Wolfgangs they had weren't any better either, but still toting a price tag that could choke. How can Fender even think about letting this stuff get out to retail in that state? All their USA Wolfgangs were as bad as each other, and the sales guy said that they were working their way through them to get the frets rounded off.

You'd have to be an idiot to buy one of these things! Do your self a favor and buy an original Ernie Ball Musicman EVH for the same money and get not only a sound investment as they're only ever going to go up in value, but also one of the finest stock guitars ever produced. Period.

Music Man, I salute you for your outstanding quality and craftsmentship.

Fender EVH Wolfgang = Epic Fail !
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Wow that's interesting. Others have tried them an commented on them being quite nice, both the US and the Japanese ones (not Korean ).
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Fender's ghostbuilding so they probably don't care. If the guitars are substandard, the VH side is at fault for not having any quality control being done. I've seen the Ernie Ball factory tour on youtube and can see they do top notch quality stuff.
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Went into Daddy's Junky Music in Manchester NH yesterday and got talking to one of the sales guys who was obviously as much an EVH gear fan as I am. He pointed out the new USA EVH (by Fender) Wolfgangs up on the wall behind the counter, so I checked it out to see if it has the same gorgeous feel of the original EBMM EVH's. I was horrified... this thing had a price tag of nearly $3K and not only was the neck not even a decent grade of maple (never mind no birdseye etc) but the frets weren't even close to being rounded off. If I had run my fingers up the side of the fretboard more than once, they would have drawn blood. I am not joking! I can honestly say that I have never seen frets as bad as this on anything, even cheap Chinese instruments of the early 90's, never mind a so-called high end USA made guitar. The Korean Wolfgangs they had weren't any better either, but still toting a price tag that could choke. How can Fender even think about letting this stuff get out to retail in that state? All their USA Wolfgangs were as bad as each other, and the sales guy said that they were working their way through them to get the frets rounded off.

You'd have to be an idiot to buy one of these things! Do your self a favor and buy an original Ernie Ball Musicman EVH for the same money and get not only a sound investment as they're only ever going to go up in value, but also one of the finest stock guitars ever produced. Period.

Music Man, I salute you for your outstanding quality and craftsmentship.

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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

Wow that's a shame I think the new Wolfgang's look amazing I've been gas'in for one for a while. I posted about the new double cutaway Taylor's today and I reckon aside from the headstock they have a similar kind of shape to the new EVH don't you think?

http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars...els/SolidBody/
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Wow that's interesting. Others have tried them an commented on them being quite nice, both the US and the Japanese ones (not Korean ).
I had been looking forward to checking one out. A total disappointment, although I have to admit that I didn't get as far as plugging it in. Maybe the sound would have been some kind of redeeming factor, but it had already failed at first touch. The cheaper version is MIJ? The Daddy's dude said Korean, so my bad, and even more, his, and in that case, even more shocking.
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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

I just played one of the new USA EVH's and the Wolfgang special (which is made in japan) side by side, and they were extremely nice playing guitars right out of the box. Low action, and the floyds on both would not go out of tune no matter how hard I tried. The neck was very straight and had that worn in/comfortable feeling on both. I wouldn't pay the price for the USA Wolfgang, but the Special is something I'm seriously considering.

I'm extremely surprised at your report, and quite frankly, shocked. From what I've been told, EVH was little more than a terrorist when he was working with Peavey, and would constantly demand the production of the Wolfgang and the 5150 be stopped if he found the smallest problem with anything. I was also told that EBMM had the same problem with EVH. He's supposed to be a difficult guy to work with because he demands perfection in every instrument that comes off of the line. I'll talk to the owner of the music store that I do business with, as he's a good friend of mine, and see if he's heard about any production problems the EVH line is having.

Thanks for the info!
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post #8 of 30 (permalink) Old 02-02-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

Everything I have heard aside from this post has said the same thing -- the quality of the EVH Wolfgangs is beyond reproach.

That said, I have tried one (no fret issues, by the way) and thought "meh." The neck just doesn't fit me. But it rang forever when I plucked an open string.
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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

A friend of mine is a huge EVH fan and just bought a Japanese Wolfgang that I had a chance to play at Christmas. He said it was actually made by Fujijen?

Anyways, I thought it was a really nice guitar. The frets were really nicely finished (and very small compared to Ibanez frets), the action was really low and the fretboard was a really nice birdseye maple. This was straight out of the box, still had the price tag hanging on it.

Your report actually surprises me based on the one example I played.
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I've loved every one that I've played, and love the one I bought.

The fret issue mentioned is common on guitars with unfinished necks on display at stores without proper humidity control. I believe some people call it fret sprout. Easily cured by a day or two in a better environment.

The frets themselves are a taste thing. The "vintage" small frets on these guitars seem to be a pretty divisive point among guitar players. You either love em or hate em I guess.

The top on mine is beautiful, thought I have seem them with lack luster tops as well. It just depends on the guitar, some definitely are nicer than others.

The fretboard is the only part of the neck that is birdseye, and this is by design, not a cost factor. Other manufacturers have begun doing this as well (Suhr/Tyler/Anderson). It is mainly related to stability. Birdseye maple necks have a tendency to be even more susceptible to humidity a non-birdseye one, made worse by the fact that these necks are unfinished.

The price tag for the USA models is more or less in the same range as many other signature instruments. They go for just under $3K retail which isn't bad in my opinion.

If you want to see high prices, look at Gibson signature models, the Kirk Hammett or James Hetfield sig guitars, Jem's, Jacksons.. countless others.

If you didn't even plug it in you missed the best part.
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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

You went to Daddy's "Junky" Music and expected a non-junky guitar??? Sorry--couldn't pass that opportunity up. Seriously though, the statements about the frets are true. Everyone else that's played one has no beef with the fret ends. You should go back and plug one in. If you like it, have the store tech take care of those fret ends before purchase, or a condition of.



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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

glad to see that the extremely pour fret job on the US (and, Japanese as pointed out) wolfgangs I tried isn't consistent. Should hope not for an axe in that price bracket, and thanks for the, er, advice, guys. I'm not a young novice. I've worked in the guitar industry for a very long time and have more than enough geetahs. There's no way I'm going to go as far as "go back and plug in" a guitar with that much fret protrusion. I value my calluses far too much

Just going from what I experienced for myself, and fret protusion aside, EBMM EVH's still reign supreme. Period

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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

We have one EVH dealer here; their store is kind of warehouse-like (concrete floors, high exposed ceiling, etc.) and every one I've played in the winter has had horrible fret sprout. In the summer they are fine. Are these completely unfinished necks? I thought they had some kind of light oil finish. Either way these seem to be really susceptible to humidity changes - I've own 6 EBMMs over the years and never had any weather change issues with their oil/wax neck finish, and my house tends to be kind of dry in the winter months.
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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

I have an EBMM EVH, and have owned an Axis as well. I did the oil/wax thing on the Fender EVH too.. it's pretty awesome.
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Re: EVH Wolfgang USA.... shocked!

I own the Peavy Wolfgang special, it's an older one I bought used and its a great axe. I'm considering picking up an Axis. Anyone here own one? Sounds like the shop the OP went to needs to invest in a climate control system. My store I do business with has one, they take it very seriously, to the point that they have me convinced me to pick up a mobile unit for my axe room.
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