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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-23-2011, 10:24 PM Thread Starter
 
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EVH Wolfgang VS Wolfgang special

what is the real difference here? would it be a good choice to go with the special to save a buck? it doesnt surprise me that they made a move like that with the high price tag of the wolfgang. i dont think it was a big seller. thanks.
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what is the real difference here? would it be a good choice to go with the special to save a buck? it doesnt surprise me that they made a move like that with the high price tag of the wolfgang. i dont think it was a big seller. thanks.

Lots actually. The real one is much better. Its comparing a 333 to a 7vwh honestly.

1) the special is made in japan.
2) quality of woods is WAY down
3) finish options down
4) cheaper hardware
5) the top is flat on the special vs the carved top of the real one
6) no binding.

There are other things.

Both suck compared to the Axis models though.
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Lots actually. The real one is much better. Its comparing a 333 to a 7vwh honestly.

1) the special is made in japan.
2) quality of woods is WAY down
3) finish options down
4) cheaper hardware
5) the top is flat on the special vs the carved top of the real one
6) no binding.

There are other things.

Both suck compared to the Axis models though.

lol good to know.

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Re: EVH Wolfgang VS Wolfgang special

Of course, the EBMM models are superior to all. Expensive as heck these days, too. If I still played maple necks, I'd track down a light blue version of the old EBMM.
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Of course, the EBMM models are superior to all. Expensive as heck these days, too. If I still played maple necks, I'd track down a light blue version of the old EBMM.
thanks for the reply man
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Re: EVH Wolfgang VS Wolfgang special

The most noticeable difference is that the Special sounds a little less dynamic than the regular Wolfgang, with less midrange character. It still plays very nicely and I think comparing it to a Jem 333 is a huge and unfair exaggeration. It's more like an RG2550 compared to a J.Custom.
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The most noticeable difference is that the Special sounds a little less dynamic than the regular Wolfgang, with less midrange character. It still plays very nicely and I think comparing it to a Jem 333 is a huge and unfair exaggeration. It's more like an RG2550 compared to a J.Custom.

you're kidna right. Maybe the 555 to it. They arent even made the same way is the thng. the 555 at least is built the same way, same specs, etc. the special doesnt even have a carved top. If it did, Id be all over one.
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Well the USA-made one is built by the Charvel Custom Shop by only three guys (See this thread: http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=72902) - can't really match that level of workmanship with mass production but the Special is still a quality guitar.

In terms of how similar the specs are (apart from the top, and you may remember the EBMM version had a flat top too), the Special includes a birdseye maple compound radius fretboard and the same stainless steel frets as the US version. It also has the exact same pickups, EVH-branded Floyd Rose with D-Tuna, same toggle switch and same Bourns/EVH low-friction pots. It does still have body binding (rather than a painted, simulated binding) although one ply instead of the 5-ply on the US version. The EBMM version also had single-ply binding. You might even say that the Special is closer to the EBMM version than the US-made Wolfgang in terms of design, from a certain point of view.

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Well the USA-made one is built by the Charvel Custom Shop by only three guys (See this thread: http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=72902) - can't really match that level of workmanship with mass production but the Special is still a quality guitar.

In terms of how similar the specs are (apart from the top, and you may remember the EBMM version had a flat top too), the Special includes a birdseye maple compound radius fretboard and the same stainless steel frets as the US version. It also has the exact same pickups, EVH-branded Floyd Rose with D-Tuna, same toggle switch and same Bourns/EVH low-friction pots. It does still have body binding (rather than a painted, simulated binding) although one ply instead of the 5-ply on the US version. The EBMM version also had single-ply binding. You might even say that the Special is closer to the EBMM version than the US-made Wolfgang in terms of design, from a certain point of view.


I looked at the spec sheets and indeed they look the same, but there has to be more to it then that!
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I looked at the spec sheets and indeed they look the same, but there has to be more to it then that!
Nope. The Fender guy who showed me the two guitars side by side said the whole point was to make a guitar that was as similar as possible while being as accessible as possible financially too, and that's why they've gone with all the same hardware, same wood types, same neck shape, etc. I'm sure the decision to give it a flat top instead of carved was partially driven by a consideration of 'Well, if we make the EXACT same guitar in Japan, what'd be the point of having the US version?'

As I said though, there IS a noticeable difference in tone, but they both sound similar. It's just that one of them sounds a little richer than the other.
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Re: EVH Wolfgang VS Wolfgang special

Played both, didn't like either one really. I agree that the EBMM had better mojo somehow, even thought they are basically the same. Not knocking the Jackson builders in any way, just saying.
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Nope. The Fender guy who showed me the two guitars side by side said the whole point was to make a guitar that was as similar as possible while being as accessible as possible financially too, and that's why they've gone with all the same hardware, same wood types, same neck shape, etc. I'm sure the decision to give it a flat top instead of carved was partially driven by a consideration of 'Well, if we make the EXACT same guitar in Japan, what'd be the point of having the US version?'

As I said though, there IS a noticeable difference in tone, but they both sound similar. It's just that one of them sounds a little richer than the other.

Tone is subjective, and with most people playing through stomp boxes and effects units, it seems like the Special would be the better buy!!! I guess I was misinformed thinking the Special used different materials... THAT would make more sense to me. The only real difference is the carved top then O.o
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I'm sure the decision to give it a flat top instead of carved was partially driven by a consideration of 'Well, if we make the EXACT same guitar in Japan, what'd be the point of having the US version?'
It's likely also tradition -- the Wolf Specials that Peavey made were all flat tops as well. A carved top is more expensive to make as well.
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Re: EVH Wolfgang VS Wolfgang special

The Special's neck is only birdseye on the fretboard also. The back of the neck is just regular maple and I believe the headstock isn't angled like the US model.

All the same parts and components though.
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Nope. The Fender guy who showed me the two guitars side by side said the whole point was to make a guitar that was as similar as possible while being as accessible as possible financially too, and that's why they've gone with all the same hardware, same wood types, same neck shape, etc. I'm sure the decision to give it a flat top instead of carved was partially driven by a consideration of 'Well, if we make the EXACT same guitar in Japan, what'd be the point of having the US version?'

As I said though, there IS a noticeable difference in tone, but they both sound similar. It's just that one of them sounds a little richer than the other.
Same hardware, same wood but better craftmanship in USA than Japan. It is just like Ibanez LACS compare to the other Japan's Ibanez.
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