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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-26-2012, 08:12 AM Thread Starter
 
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Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

Hi, is there anyone here having mounted an GK 3 hexaphonic pickup (Roland) on a RG with pickguard ?

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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

Here's mine, but no pickguard. Would be easier with pickguard. I didn't install the mix switch, S1/S2 switch, or synth volume. I have my GR 55 patches set up to control those, so they were redundant, and I didn't want any routing that wasn't necessary.

What guitar are you doing the install on?

My suggestions; place the pickup as close as possible to bridge without rubbing. Floyd style bridges are tough for GK install as the saddle points are recessed. The optimal distance should be no more than 20mm, but a few of my saddles are at 23mm, but I haven't had an issue. Also be very careful and take your time with the routing for the 13 pin output jack. It has caused me more problems than ny other aspect of the install. Btw,.. I did away with the 1/4 inch jack, and used that cavity for the 13 pin output jack, just enlarging it enough for the new connector.


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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

Nice, so you bought a GK kit ? I need to install it on a RG 3250 MZ, it has a pickguard.
And how did you fix the guitar jack input ? Did you keep it or not ?

Thanks for your answer.
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

Great topic! I'm about to mount one on a 550. I've found that there's more space on a pickguarded guitar than without. If I were to install in on a 570, I'd have to cut part of the pickup ring.
That GK3 on the Premium above makes me think I may chose to put my Roland on my Premium too, or at least one of my direct mount RGs.
Just for the sake of helping the OP--I'll install it on the 550 first, and report back with results. It'll be a bit though, as I've got to recover more before any more projects.



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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

I think I'll buy a new pickguard and cut it to fit it to the GK pickup. If one day I sell the guitar, I just put the original pickguard back on it without any problem...
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

Yes, this is the GK Kit GT 3. The 13 pin output jack was the toughest part. I used the cavity where the normal 1/4 jack is connected, a small cavity accessed from the back by a 2.5 x 2.5 cover. I removed the 1/4 jack, and enlarged the hole to fit the 13 pin jack. It took a few hours with a dremel tool and a hand file. I also had to enlarge the small hole where the pickup wiring passes so that the hex pickup connector would fit through.

As for your plans, an extra pickguard to experiment with is a good idea. You may only need to cut a small hole for the connector to slide through, as the pickup mounts to the top with screws and springs. I did have to cut out a pickguard for the whole pickup on an install to a Strat because of the string height , but the. Edge type bridge saddles are a bit higher.
Sorry I don't have better pics. I'll try and upload a few next weekend.

My best advice is if you don't feel comfortable routing, don't do it. I was extremely impressed with quality and sound of the Premium, and the price was very good. I have many Prestige models but I was way too afraid to try it on them.
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

I've been looking into midi for a long time.

I'm sad to say, the GK-3 seems like its just not the option for me. I'll be buying a Piezo Bridge for any MIDI setup I go to in future. Without question.
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

Btw, Alaskabat, your YouTube review of the premium 920 really sold me on the model. I own quite a few Prestige models and love them, but had been very dissapointed with an S Model Prestige made in Korea, and decided therafter to only by made in Japan. But I saw your video, and ordered one that day. Now I have two, and am going to order the new Premium fixed bridge as soon as my retailer adds it to their inventory.
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

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I've been looking into midi for a long time.

I'm sad to say, the GK-3 seems like its just not the option for me. I'll be buying a Piezo Bridge for any MIDI setup I go to in future. Without question.
I have both types in my collection, in fact, I have both models that Ibanez sold with factory 13 pin output, from 2002 the RG 420gk with gk 2a pickup, and from 2005 the RG 1520gk with piezo's in n edge pro trem.



For Midi, using my GI 20 the piezo equipped RG is slightly better, but, with my GR-55 the rg 420, and all of my gk 3 type guitars, are way better. Same with VG 99, and VG 88's. Roland voiced the modeled tones using gk3's so they sound so much better. If you decide to go with Piezo's, I highly recommend the RMC upgrade to the GR55, or vg 99. It's under $200, and effectively levels the field for piezo equipped guitars.

When recording at home, the Piezos are good, but they can be troublesome when taken on long road tours. The gk3 are road ready, and you can spend a lot having a shop replace a piezo at the last minute. But they all have their uses, and it comes down to which sounds better to you.
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

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I have both types in my collection, in fact, I have both models that Ibanez sold with factory 13 pin output, from 2002 the RG 420gk with gk 2a pickup, and from 2005 the RG 1520gk with piezo's in n edge pro trem.



For Midi, using my GI 20 the piezo equipped RG is slightly better, but, with my GR-55 the rg 420, and all of my gk 3 type guitars, are way better. Same with VG 99, and VG 88's. Roland voiced the modeled tones using gk3's so they sound so much better. If you decide to go with Piezo's, I highly recommend the RMC upgrade to the GR55, or vg 99. It's under $200, and effectively levels the field for piezo equipped guitars.

When recording at home, the Piezos are good, but they can be troublesome when taken on long road tours. The gk3 are road ready, and you can spend a lot having a shop replace a piezo at the last minute. But they all have their uses, and it comes down to which sounds better to you.
Well, I'm less interested in the modelled guitar tones and far more interested in using the guitar to do Sequencing, so as long as the tracking is good, thats fine by me, and I've been told by numerous people that the piezo tracking is far superior.
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

I've had a Godin Freeway piezzos equiped and it was really bad for the synth sounds tracking. The GK3's really better and faster but I also believe it's not only a question of pickups... The guitar has a lead role too and each guitar reacts differently depending on the type, the woods, the type of bridge, etc.... 'd really like to have a possibility to play on those two Ibanez models...
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

I agree with you,... I think you have to feel comfortable with your guitar for it be actually usable. There are a few J Custom models that I have been looking to buy for years, but I probably would never take it out to gigs, and would be so worried about it, that I wouldn't be comfortable.

Look at the frankenstein van halen guitar,.. it was cut up, had pieces of a pickguard, a quarter with hole drilled into it etc, but then look at the songs recorded with it, classics.

There are peeps who swear by Les Paul's, and ones who swear by Strats. Peeps who swear by set neck, ones who choose bolt on.

Piezo's or GK's ? Whatever you feel comfortable with.
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

You're absolutely right but, except the choice of the guitar itself for your own pleasure, there are models that react better to the GK mount than other ones. For my personal case, the best results are obtained using a Music Man Luke... Don't ask me why, but it's probably because it's a custom built guitar and very simple on its own, I must definitively try the GK on my RG that I like so much to play on...
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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

Here's how I have the pc board installed in the cavity of my RG 920, and the cavity where I replaced the 1/4 inch jack with the 13 pin output connector.


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Re: Examples of your Ibanez RG with Roland GK pickup ?

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Well, I'm less interested in the modelled guitar tones and far more interested in using the guitar to do Sequencing, so as long as the tracking is good, thats fine by me, and I've been told by numerous people that the piezo tracking is far superior.
If you will be using soft synths etc and primarily recording midi data for sequencing, you may want to hold onto your cash for a few months.

3rd quarter 2012, Fishman is releasing the Triple Play, ( designed by same engineer who designed the Axon/ Yamaha system). The initial release will be a hex mount that is wireless, including a foot controller, using Bluetooth to send info to a USB dongle that can access Logic, etc.( no actual physical midi ports). The plans are to eventually release a piezo bridge, (Fishman has a lot of experience with Piezo's), and a dedicated unit with physical midi connections.

The demo at NAMM is impressive.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_nKhlmJ4EeI
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