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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-14-2012, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
 
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FGM vs. S540 differences

Does anyone know for sure whether the FGM neck has less material vs. the stock 540 neck or is the neck simply set in to the body further? If it's set into the body further, is the FGM body slightly different (more material) near where the neck mounts up? Or is the pocket simply machined a bit deeper? Doesn't seem like there's a lot of extra material in that region to whittle down.

I'm mating an FGM neck to a an S540 body but I've not seen an FGM in person.

Thanks in advance!
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-14-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

As far as I remember the necks are very similar, the FGM's neck is just deeper in the pocket but the amount of wood for the neck is the same, the pickups were also recessed into the body, including the pickup rings. Otherwise body thickness was the same as the thinnest S series.

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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

Ok so there's just more material taken out of the base of the pocket then...
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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-14-2012, 12:22 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

Stock S540, 1993 LTD model.


2010 S5EX1 model, seems like there's a lot more material on the back side of the pocket.


2000 S1520 Prestige


S5470, photos are a little dark on the bottom so it's tough to compare here without the guitar in hand. I'll take some caliper readings later.

These are FGM 400 images, best I could find for comparison's sake. It definitely sits lower.


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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

Yes...neck is normal but everything is recessed lower 4mm or so....neck,pup rings,trem.
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

So I'd have to route the trem cavity 4mm lower as well? Or does that fall under the normal adjustment parameters of the trem studs?
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So I'd have to route the trem cavity 4mm lower as well? Or does that fall under the normal adjustment parameters of the trem studs?
No....the neck specs are normal (heel depth etc) so bolting into a standard body just puts the neck in the standard position.....should be a non issue.
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

Right. I understand that but I'm actually planning on mounting it at the same depth as a real FGM by taking material out of the pocket. I plan on mounting the pickups and pickup mounting rings in the same fashion as the real deal too.

The last part would be the tremolo. I'm "hoping" there's enough adjustment range in the studs to accommodate the 4mm drop. Otherwise I'll have to pull the inserts and machine out 4mm, then drop them back in. I'm using an Edge Pro for the bridge and I already plan on machining out the necessary areas to give it a normal range of motion.
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

Here's my FGM100:



More pics here:
http://photobucket.com/IbanezFGM100skyblue

We're insanely busy at the shop at the moment, thankfully, but if you would like some specific measurements of something a can get on it next week or the week after.
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

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Right. I understand that but I'm actually planning on mounting it at the same depth as a real FGM by taking material out of the pocket. I plan on mounting the pickups and pickup mounting rings in the same fashion as the real deal too.
That's a lot of work, I think you should buy a real FGM! You can resell that junky old fgm400 neck to me
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

Ha ha ha ha! Nice try.
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Here's my FGM100:



More pics here:
http://photobucket.com/IbanezFGM100skyblue

We're insanely busy at the shop at the moment, thankfully, but if you would like some specific measurements of something a can get on it next week or the week after.
Thanks so much for the offer! Will let you know.
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

khaas, out of curiosity, does it look like the trem cavity is lower than a standard S540 as well?
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

The entire cavity for the trem is deeper mike,Khaas guitar is setup and you can see how much lower the knife edges are in the body to the standard.
I dont blame you for wanting to do it but geez....alot of work.
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-15-2012, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: FGM vs. S540 differences

Yeah, I may get in to this and decide to just put it at stock level. In Khaas' photo, the rear pickup is still pretty high up so what's the point? Although countersunk pickup surrounds would be damn cool!
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