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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-02-2014, 08:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

Since I've been on Jemsite a bunch lately, I wanted to post some pictures and details of my new build. It's a little bit of a long read. However, if you like build threads or thought about bolting a telecaster together you might find it interesting.

This build was based off of a GFS (Guitar Fetish) Pawlonia Telecaster Body. I got the idea from reading some of the build posts at TDPRI (the telecaster forum). The folks over there talk about how the wood is light and resonant. So for $50 I thought I'd give it a try. In addition, I wanted an economical project to work on with my 6 year old. It was kind of a way to break him into my passion.

The price list for building the guitar broke down as follows. The body was $65 including shipping; I had set of Fender 60's re-issue pickups; the pickguard and control plate set me back $18; I had the pots and knobs left over from another project; the neck (Allparts MIJ maple neck with a rosewood fretboard) was a bay purchase that included the sperzel tuners (i almost forgot how much I really like these USA made tuners) $160; I bought a new neck plate, neck screws, and an electrosocket jack plate for $24; and finally I added a set of wilkerson swiveling saddles to a fender bridge plate for $38. I also have a set of planet waves strap pegs on order, which were $7.5 shipped. So I figure all said and done taking into account the value of the parts I had that the guitar could be built for around $375.

Now came bolting it all together. It went together, but took some time to line everything up. I'll say a little more about this later. I used a 3-way switch to wire it up - Neck, both in series, and bridge.

Then it was time to set it up. I checked the nut height and filed the slots very slightly. On my telecasters I set the string height at the 12th fret (capoing the 1st fret) at just shy of 3/16 of an inch. Frets were checked with a stew-mac fret rocker and they checked out ok. I used 9-42 d'addario's (same as my ibanez guitars). Set the intonation using the swivel saddles and was ready to test it out.

It plays great and weighs 5 lbs on the nose. The bodies so light that it's every so slightly headstock heavy. I'm kind of torn on pawlonia for a body and would not recommend GFS for an easy build. I have built a number of warmoths and Ibanez parts guitars. All of these have lined up. This was not the case with the GFS body. The holes generally lined up, but needed some help with the drill to get everything the way I wanted it. I had to drill the string holes and work the body to neck holes to get the body to line up with a standard fender neck bolt pattern. In addition, I needed to shim the neck pocket because it didn't have the correct neck angle. I didn't want to sand my neck heel or the pocket because I felt the neck would sit too deep in the pocket. Another pro or con, depending on how you look at it is how soft the wood is. I did not have to pre-drill any of the holes in the body. I just used a punch to center the hole and put the screws in from there. That made it quick. However, I could feel the neck pocket compress when the neck was fully tightened. The other thing about the body is that the finish is good from far, but far from good. There are imperfections in the body sanding that can be seen when you examine the guitar up close. I know you get what you pay for. In the end I can port over all of the parts to a better body when the urge hits, but for now I can enjoy a Monaco yellow telecaster for a fraction of the price.







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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-02-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

You're not helping my Tele G.A.S.!
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

You must really hate telecasters.
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You're not helping my Tele G.A.S.!
Sorry. I've been on a bit of a tele kick lately. Something about the simplisity .
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

Nice one , I love Teles.
I used Tulip-wood on a recent build and swore I'd never use it again because of how incredibly soft it is.
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

I have never bought a GFS body only ( although I do have one of their Xavier thinline teles) and wondered about how they would work with a build. I'm pretty used to doing builds where things don't line up : ) Its usually more work than you project.

How did the neck pocket width work? My GFS tele has a wider neck and pocket than a standerad tele or strat,, also more of a square pocket rather than a rounded bottom one that fits the round butt of a fender type neck..

Good looking axe though! I love teles also and have built a few of my own. If I someday decide to use a GFS body I will probably go with Alder based on what you said about the softness of the wood. Great thread, I love starting the day with a build thread!
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I have never bought a GFS body only ( although I do have one of their Xavier thinline teles) and wondered about how they would work with a build. I'm pretty used to doing builds where things don't line up : ) Its usually more work than you project.

How did the neck pocket width work? My GFS tele has a wider neck and pocket than a standerad tele or strat,, also more of a square pocket rather than a rounded bottom one that fits the round butt of a fender type neck..

Good looking axe though! I love teles also and have built a few of my own. If I someday decide to use a GFS body I will probably go with Alder based on what you said about the softness of the wood. Great thread, I love starting the day with a build thread!
The neck pocket was good. I originally thought this is were I would have issues. It would have been better if they had not drilled any neck bolt holes in the body or the string through holes. It was like the body shifted in the automated drill press. I then needed to make sure I could get the new holes and pre drilled ones kind of lined up.

My plan is to eventually make a body myself. I'm just not there yet.
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

Whoa someone likes Tele's a little bit eh? Nice build... pretty soon you'll be carving out your own bodies and necks man... That's how it works. It starts out just swapping pickups and electronics, then bolting mismatched necks and bodies together, next thing you know you have a garage full of tools and a face full of saw dust

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Nice one , I love Teles.
I used Tulip-wood on a recent build and swore I'd never use it again because of how incredibly soft it is.
I have a stained/ tung oil finished Tulip Wood (Poplar in the US) 540P hardtail body matched up with a MIJ Wizard II that oozes tone. The neck pocket seems pretty solid, but the edges are a bit soft and prone to dings...

It's great for tone and sustain though
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Nice job ! ! !
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

I didn't know Tulip and Poplar were the same thing! Got a poplar Fireman,, mine doesn't seem much different than basswood.
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I didn't know Tulip and Poplar were the same thing! Got a poplar Fireman,, mine doesn't seem much different than basswood.
Yeah Poplar is almost identical to Alder in tone characteristics, just a little bit softer hardwood...

It gets a bad rap because it's cheap and you can buy it at home depot, but it's the perfect wood for practicing building bodies with. If you have any success and one comes out good you should have a great sounding body for cheap compared to some other "tone" woods or practicing with scrap plywood...
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

Congrats, great combination of colours.
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Re: GFS Pawlonia Telecaster Build

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Yeah Poplar is almost identical to Alder in tone characteristics, just a little bit softer hardwood...

It gets a bad rap because it's cheap and you can buy it at home depot, but it's the perfect wood for practicing building bodies with. If you have any success and one comes out good you should have a great sounding body for cheap compared to some other "tone" woods or practicing with scrap plywood...

i have a poplar jem copy and really dig it. It is a little soft but to me also a little lighter than most alder. It does sound similar to alder though.

As a side note steve morse's signature music man is made from poplar.

Also poplar is economical and highly sustainable with a quick growth/harvest time. Palowina is also extremly sustainable with very fast maturity/harvest time. The palowina tree is also really beautiful and the flowers smell great.

Back to topic though...lol


I would like to try one of their palowina strat bodies with a warmoth neck.
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