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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2002, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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Gibson Les Paul Voodoo

Has anyone have yet to see one?

Not in any shops around my house. I want to see how the paint looks. They said they paint it ebony, then rub it with red filler. I am not sure how it is supposed to look, and I can't find a close up picture for the life of me.

How much like a les paul will this sound? Sustain wise and all? It is a swamp ash body I believe

Body
Swamp Ash
Neck/Profile
Mahogany/Rounded
Fingerboard/Inlay
Ebony 22 frets/ Red Pearl Acryllic Voodoo Skull inlay
Scale/Nut Width
243/4"/111/16
Bridge/Tailpiece
Tune-o-matic/Stop bar
Hardware
Black Chrome
Pickups
Black Magic 496R/500T, Black/Red Coils
Controls
Two volume, two tone, three-way switch

are the specs. I played the gothic, but i wasn't impressed at all. It was a studio with a dull paint job. Whatca think of this?
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2002, 10:03 PM
 
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I saw one, and it looked cheap. The finish was okay, but not very Les Paul-like at all. Dull brownish-black with a slight red tint to it, and of course, the visible swamp ash grain.

To me, the Les Paul sound is all about the mahogany. I know the swamp ash fits into the whole "voodoo" theme, but that ain't no Les Paul.

Personally, i'd go for the Gothic.
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Darren took the words out of my mouth. And dont buy a raw power either they are made like pooh. The smartwoods on the other hand nummy
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post #4 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2002, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
 
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So what the difference between a gothic and a studio?

and how bad is a studio really ?
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post #5 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2002, 10:58 PM
 
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Well, the Gothic is essentially a studio with a different look and finish, and, i am not sure about that, ebony fingerboard...the pickups are the same...So it is essentially a Studio and if you don't care about the looks then the ebony board is the only extra feature. I played it and it was fine, but it didn't feel as well as higher end LP's, i never played a studio so i can't really help you here...
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I really don't think you can call studio a "bad" guitar, i doubt that the quality is much worse than a standard, it's just more stripped-down featurewise
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post #7 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2002, 11:31 PM
 
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The Studio is a nice guitar. Not as fancy as other Les Pauls... no maple top, no bound body or fretboard, but a good guitar for those who want the LP sound with less flash.

You can find good deals on Studios, too. At MF, they're still over a grand, but i'm sure you can find them for less. (BTW... anybody notice the $999 ES-135s at MF? Yowza!)
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the studio is basically a cheap les paul standard. The quality isnt bad but I dont really see how gibson justifys charging more for the standard anyways. I think the studios tend to be reasonably priced where as the standards are just ridiculous
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post #9 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2002, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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Its the sound that I love. I dont care for bindings and such. I would want a black black one also.


Maybe a studio is more for me.
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post #10 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2002, 11:52 PM
 
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For a little while they discontinued the studio with full size trapezoids. One of my friends has a white one with full trapezoids and gold hardware and it looks and plays phenominal.
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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-11-2002, 12:19 AM
 
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I have 2 les paul studios, and I love them both. they are not lacking in the features that count- playability and tone. they are just as good as any other les paul in those departments. (At least mine are) just not as flashy.
And I got them both for under $600 apiece. not even the cost of 1 les paul standard. (Or a new studio, for that matter)
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I played a voodoo a couple weeks ago and wasn't overly impressed with any aspect of it--the appearance, the tone, or the playability. The tone was the biggest let-down... it just didn't have the classic Les Paul "chunk". I'm sure that's due to the body being made out of swamp ash instead of mahogany. The pickups are theoretically the same ones that are in my LP Classic, but the guitar just wasn't delivering the goods.

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Here we go again

Snipe, how many Raw Power LP's have you owned? Played? Smartwoods? Just what guitars do you own, anyway? It's easy on a faceless forum to slam what you don't like but know nothing about, isn't it. Also, the Studio your friend has plays "phenominal" but you don't like Standards? You don't see why a Standard costs more? Ever put binding on a guitar? If not, it's quite the process... Check it out sometime and enlighten yourself...

(Hummm... Maybe I should do like everyone else here and just ignore him... It's a thought...)

On a related note, Musicians Friend just marked down the Gothic V and Explorer to $499 with case and free shipping. Not a bad deal. I scored me one of those Explorers. Don't know if I'll like the Gothic finish but at that price, how can you go wrong???
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Hell, never mind the gothic finish, never mind that it is an explorer (not bad guitars, but i prefer a more traditional looks), it's $500 for a USA Gibson, that even beats the Faded SG! (too bad i'm not in a market for a new guitar right now)
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Yeah, that's a killer deal. Hell, strip it down and put a nice stain and oil on it, and that's one classy Explorer.

I've heard the Raw Powers are quite good, but i've never really gone over one in detail or played one myself. I have, however, heard some negative things about the Smartwoods, that they're thinner than a regular LP and that the woods they used don't actually sound all that great... more of a marketing gimmick than anything.

I love the look of the Raw Power LPs... i remember Billy Duffy of The Cult had a stripped Custom that looked just sweet. Too bad they didn't do the Raw Power with a lightly figured or spalted top... that plain flatsawn maple does look a little plain.

Like most guitars that use what are considered to be "tone woods", Les Pauls are quite finnicky... you have to play a lot of them to find one that has that right "ring" to it for your ear... not to mention the subtle differences in neck profiles, finish quality and pickup sound that people seem to encounter.

Now that i think about it, i always hear about people having to play lots of Fenders, PRSes and Gibsons to find that one gem that's just "right", but you almost never hear about people having to go through that with basswood-bodied guitars. It's like basswood is either tonally neutral or remarkably consistent from plank to plank.
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