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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-15-2009, 01:49 AM Thread Starter
 
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Guitar Setup - string action?

It has been a while since I had my guitar setup. My guitar has gone through several climate changes so I figure a setup is probably a good idea. Just wondering what height string action is typical on the Prestige guitars (I have RG2820 Prestige).

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post #2 of 52 (permalink) Old 01-15-2009, 01:59 AM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

i have mine on my rg2550z as low as it can go almost without buzzing. i get slight buzz on the A and E string, but not on the high strings. i took it to a luthier for an unrelated problem and he raised it, saying that the notes were fretting out, but i just lowered it because they weren't...

i can get a 4th of pull up still from the 9th fret G string and about a major 6th from the 4th fret harmonic of the G string.
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post #3 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-06-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

Doesn't the manual say something like 1.5mm high E? That's pretty high to me however.
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post #4 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-06-2009, 05:52 PM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

1.5mm on the high e sounds pretty much right for a stock guitar. You can definitely go lower than that though.
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post #5 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-07-2009, 03:58 PM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

Why not give it a go and go for a "when it feels, sounds and plays the best (compromise)" instead of numbers?
Really low action is killing tone, really high has great tone and makes the instrument more dynamic, but intonate like a bitch, to low action is hard to play clean and gives you weak fingers, to high action is hard to play (at least in the beginning).

Find something in-between that sounds good.

My advice, donít go for the ďas low as possibleĒ trap.

The only number I have in my head are my low E (because I got asked the other day), it is 2.5-3mm (depending on the guitar) from the top of the 12th fret to the underside of the string.

Good luck with it!

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post #6 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-07-2009, 10:27 PM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

I like:

At 24 th Hi E = 1.6mm
Lo w E 1.9 mm
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post #7 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-08-2009, 01:43 AM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?



(4/64) inch = 1.5875 millimeters

That's pretty good action. Some people like it lower...but that's fairly low.
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post #8 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-08-2009, 01:47 AM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

For the record....

The 2006 Prestige manual states 2.0mm for the bass side and 1.5mm for the treble side.
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post #9 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-10-2009, 11:40 AM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

on mine: (RGA 121)

high e, 12th fret 3/64ths"

low e, 12th fret 4/64ths"

pretty typical setup I think. I don't get any buzz...or at least very minimal.
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post #10 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-10-2009, 01:30 PM
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

You must always check the neck relief before adjusting the action, otherwise you could end up with some strange results along the fretboard !! I'd say 2mm (5/64) bass side and 1.5mm (2/32) treble side is about right for the 12th fret as long as the neck relief is adjusted correctly. 1.6 mm (2/32) and 1.2 mm (3/64) are about the lowest you should aim for.
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post #11 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-10-2009, 01:34 PM
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(4/64) inch = 1.5875 millimeters

That's pretty good action. Some people like it lower...but that's fairly low.
Ahem, that's the 11th fret, cough, cough !!
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(4/64) inch = 1.5875 millimeters

That's pretty good action. Some people like it lower...but that's fairly low.
dude, just to let you know, that's the 11 fret and there's parallax error.
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post #13 of 52 (permalink) Old 03-10-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

Close enough. You should be adjusting to feel at that point anyway. Not with a ruler. And I never said it was the twelfth fret...did I?

It was just an example. You try to hold the ruler and snap a picture in closeup mode without having a blurry mess of a picture. It's not like I had a tripod.

Gzzzz..

Plus, I use feeler gauges to get my initial settings. The ruler pic was just for illustration.

Additionally, how much Parallax error could there possibly be. The ruler is sitting right next to the string. Could it be 1/128th or maybe 1/256th's of an inch? If you want to get all technically precise about things.... the guitar is not properly supported to give a true (actual) measurement.

(1/256) inch = 0.09921875 millimeters

Remind me not to share my pics with you guys...LOL!

Oh yeah...almost forgot....the prestige manual tells you to measure at the 14th fret.

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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

When I stick a Dunlop 1.14mm pick under my high E string on some of my guitars, the string raises as I slide the pick underneath.
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post #15 of 52 (permalink) Old 06-27-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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Re: Guitar Setup - string action?

Well, I don't have a Prestige... actually I have a project guitar (or "Custom Made" as I like to call it), so I'm not sure if that means I don't have a dog in this fight, but:

My action is slightly above 2.0mm and, personally, I think that's where most guitars' action should be. On any guitar that I've played if you drop anywhere below 1.8mm or so, you start to lose tone and volume. I'm your typical shred-head metal player and my 2.0mm action works just fine for me shredding and when I get to a point where I need to have my guitar sounding a certain way tone-wise and have a kind of "feeling" about it (because despite popular belief metalheads do have soul!) I have to be getting the most out of my action.

This is all subjective though. If you are happy with your tone at your current action then don't change it. It never hurts to try something new though (as long as you're careful).
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