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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-01-2020, 07:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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High e string intonation very low

Intonation very low on the high e string, furthermore, string action is also very low on that string.
Is the intonation problem a result of the low string action, it is also buzzing a lot?
Should I raise the bridge on the treble side. I have the original edge bridge. Its on a Genesis rg550
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-02-2020, 05:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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Correction, not low, but flat.
Intonation very flat on high e-string. Also the string action very low, so it buzzez on many frets on the e-string. Especially on the first 7 frets

What to do?
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Re: High e string intonation very low

Fret buzz at that end of the neck suggests insufficient relief, but if it is only the high E that would be odd- twisted neck or a fret issue somewhere. What is your action like at the 12th fret?

Sort that before getting into the intonation. If fretted notes are flat you need to move the saddle towards the neck.
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Fret buzz at that end of the neck suggests insufficient relief, but if it is only the high E that would be odd- twisted neck or a fret issue somewhere. What is your action like at the 12th fret?

Sort that before getting into the intonation. If fretted notes are flat you need to move the saddle towards the neck.
About 1 mm on 12th fret high e string and almost 2 mm on low e string

It is very strange, I bought the guitar a few years back, and ended up not playing it. But I vaugely remember lowering the bridge slighly to get a lower string action. And I am 100% certain that I did not do anything with saddles. So how can intionation all of a sudden go without me changing the saddles?
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Re: High e string intonation very low

1mm is very low, I suggest you raise it a little but these things are all personal preference. It is possible you have a dodgy or damaged string too. Try changing it.
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1mm is very low, I suggest you raise it a little but these things are all personal preference. It is possible you have a dodgy or damaged string too. Try changing it.
Definitely worth checking this..
I had a JS 1000 that buzzed only on the high e.
Drove me mad for ages. I got my fret rocker out, no high frets.. Raised the bridge. Still awful.
Was starting to get paranoid that my neck had a twist as the relief was fine everywhere else.

Turned out it was the way the string was resting in the locking part of the trem.
And as soon as I changed the string the issue just disappeared and never returned.
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1mm is very low, I suggest you raise it a little but these things are all personal preference. It is possible you have a dodgy or damaged string too. Try changing it.
Yes I want to raise it, but for some strange reason, I can't find the correct allen wrench, what size should it be, you know?
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1mm is very low, I suggest you raise it a little but these things are all personal preference. It is possible you have a dodgy or damaged string too. Try changing it.
Definitely worth checking this..
I had a JS 1000 that buzzed only on the high e.
Drove me mad for ages. I got my fret rocker out, no high frets.. Raised the bridge. Still awful.
Was starting to get paranoid that my neck had a twist as the relief was fine everywhere else.

Turned out it was the way the string was resting in the locking part of the trem.
And as soon as I changed the string the issue just disappeared and never returned.
Interesting!

Will change string if it doesn't work with raising the bridge. Just need to figure out correct allen wrench size
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Yes I want to raise it, but for some strange reason, I can't find the correct allen wrench, what size should it be, you know?
4mm, and a 1.5mm for the locking one inside (I think the genesis has them)
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Yes I want to raise it, but for some strange reason, I can't find the correct allen wrench, what size should it be, you know?

4mm, and a 1.5mm for the locking one inside (I think the genesis has them)
I have the wrench for the inner lock, but the main 4mm I don't seem to have. Need to go and get one, will be back asap, and let you know how it is going. Thanks for your help so far.

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