This is a post from another forum but it could apply to all of us one day so it's worth the read.
Imagine my horror when my wife called me to say that the guitar had arrived from FedEx Ground, and she asked.....why it did not come in a box !!
Yes, I did a trade with a guy (Andrew Emmel) and after careful preparation (lots of picture trading, many emails, talking on phone, etc) ..... I never thought to ask him if he would be putting this in a BOX for shipment. Some things I guess you just cannot assume. I was speechless, I mean who would send a $1500 guitar out to the FedEx gorilla gang with no protection other than the nice Gibson USA (mint condition when it started) hardshell case. This great case, which my traded decided to use as the shipping box....without telling me.....is part of the value of the trade. I don't even ship pedals in their boxes, I always double box them....to protect the value. And this guy sends a CASE out into the great unknown. Did I mention I was floored. Oh and by the way, this is a guitar that is well known for broken necks too right? Not even any internal padding to be sure it did not move around inside.
Just packing tape all around the outside to be sure and leave sticky un-removable residue all over the case....just to provide a continuous reminder of my bonehead shipper trading pal. Oh the horror. I was on a trip at the time so I got to wait 4 days until I got to see it with my own eyes.
So here is the "shipping box":
I can only assume that the owner wanted to start the relic'ing process of the case for me while it was in transit to me.
The good news is that it was not destroyed, the case had lots of new wear and tear courtesy of FedEx handlers and some pretty good crunches (in places that you wonder how they did it). But no broken neck. This must be a testament to the form/fit of this Gibson case as it did it's job well.
There is a darker side of the story (what was described as "deglossing of the back of neck by his guitar tech" seemed to be much more "hand some course sandpaper to your 6 year old and let them have it". It is brutal and unplayable neck that needs professional attention. I have an estimate for $150 to repair that surprise.....but that is another story for another thread.
Lesson learned #142:
Always confirm that seller/trader plans to put your item in a box and properly pack it.
Lesson learned #143:
Ones persons "deglossing to match the feel of his Taylor 314ce neck" is another persons "scraped with sawblade"
Lesson learned #144:
When you think that 10 pictures have told the entire story....ask for some more.
Lesson learned #145:
Even though you would always want to make a trade deal right in order to be fair and protect your reputation, don't assume others will do the same.
That is all for now. By the way I am not seeking any "oh that sucks.....I live near him and could pay him a visit" 30 page thread here. I just had to share my first bad trading experience in a long time....and vent a bit. I did not even encounter him here on TGP, but I know you guys would understand my horror. I now forgive him and wish him the best and hope that he enjoyed getting the better end of this trade deal.
The guy who traded me is: Andrew Emmel (username is: andrewemmel on Acoustic Guitar Forum and Ultimate Guitar forum). I don't see him on TGP, but wanted you guys to know so if you do deal with him....you can exercise GREAT caution. To be fair, he did not totally rip me off as he sent the guitar in trade, but his packaging was NON-EXISTENT which diminished the value of the case and the neck sanding destroyed the value that I attached to the guitar and he did NOTHING to try and reach happy compromise on making right on things.