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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-01-2011, 11:07 PM Thread Starter
 
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I NEED HELP!!!

Hello everyone,
I am new to this site and do not have a prestige just yet. But I am thinking about buying one off of ebay but I believe it may be fake.
Please look up the item number at Ebay let me know your thoughts if it is really a RG1570 Prestige.

Item # 250765507895

My thoughts are the back of the neck does not have the 2 lines from the dark wood going down it. Theres no picture of the headstock and he does not list the serial number. The bridge does not look like an edge pro but more like a standard floyd rose.

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It's an old RG-470, not a Prestige, not a 1570. The seller has no idea what it is, and just slapped that model number on there.



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With 12 bids from 7 bidders it seems there are a lot of people that have no idea what it is. With resources like Jemsite hanging around on the net there is no reason for this level of ignorance. Props to the OP for seeking out advice here.
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im gonna put this in the "fake JEM" postings. Same thing really, this needs to be closed. That is a substandard model, definitely NOT a prestige model. Cheers for doing your homework OP.
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With 12 bids from 7 bidders it seems there are a lot of people that have no idea what it is. With resources like Jemsite hanging around on the net there is no reason for this level of ignorance. Props to the OP for seeking out advice here.
Exactly! This is another example, or reason to come here to check first. Heaven forbid that was a "Jem"--but I already took enough heat for posting that Spotting a Chibanez guide a month ago--and people wonder why we try to help. Alot of times, you'll see listing from an online or eBay pawnshop listing this crap. They have no idea what it is, and just slap any Ibanez model number on it because it has the same shape. We recently saw a Chibanez listed on the Bay by a pawn shop, and when I told them what it was, their reply was, "Well, the customer that brought it in said it was a Jem." How do these boneheads stay in business?



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Exactly! This is another example, or reason to come here to check first. Heaven forbid that was a "Jem"--but I already took enough heat for posting that Spotting a Chibanez guide a month ago--and people wonder why we try to help. Alot of times, you'll see listing from an online or eBay pawnshop listing this crap. They have no idea what it is, and just slap any Ibanez model number on it because it has the same shape. We recently saw a Chibanez listed on the Bay by a pawn shop, and when I told them what it was, their reply was, "Well, the customer that brought it in said it was a Jem." How do these boneheads stay in business?

ignorant consumers.

If people give you crap for helping, **** them. Let them waste their money.
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im gonna put this in the "fake JEM" postings. Same thing really, this needs to be closed. That is a substandard model, definitely NOT a prestige model. Cheers for doing your homework OP.
Please read the initial post on that page, and do not post anything but counterfeits there. Ibanez has no responsibility to misidentified legitimate guitars, and has no intention of being the ebay police for such.
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Please read the initial post on that page, and do not post anything but counterfeits there. Ibanez has no responsibility to misidentified legitimate guitars, and has no intention of being the ebay police for such.
didnt know ibanez was the one shutting them down. I will just put in a fraud report on ebay then.
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Ibanez sets the parameters to what they want done. I can't play cowboy in their name, I have rules to follow, and there is no reporting criteria in the VERO program for misidentification anyway.
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I just sent a message to the seller telling him EXACTLY what his guitar is and that he needs to clarify it in his listing........ He probably wont do a thing, but thats when to hit the "fraud" button.
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Thank you all for helping me out. Thank God I came here and made sure haha.
Well now im looking at an s5470 that I found on craigslist for $1000. He threw in EMG 85's and looks totally brand new.
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I just sent a message to the seller telling him EXACTLY what his guitar is and that he needs to clarify it in his listing........ He probably wont do a thing, but thats when to hit the "fraud" button.
I did the same thing earlier. I would usually think it a case of mistaken identity, but he stated prestige along with the wrong model number. The seller knows the term Prestige, yet a 470 looks nothing like a 1570--clearly the seller is pulling a fast one.



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I chimed in with "Are you trying to be fraudulent or are you just unfortunately ignorant? this guitar is not a 1570. Why don't you list a picture of the front and back of the headstock as well as a photo of the serial number. I bet the headstock won't say "PRESTIGE". I also bet the serial number won't show a manufacture date that the 1570 was even produced. Why not show a close up picture of the bridge so everyone can see that it is NOT an Edge pro? This is an RG-470; not a bad guitar in it's self but certainly not a 1570. Please do the right thing and re-list this guitar appropriately. "
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It has a day and a half to go and the price is already approaching what a RG-470 should go for. I'm into this because of boredom more than anything else but hopefully we can save some fool from getting himself ripped off... Still, part of me thinks that people get what they deserve if they don't do their homework first.
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misleading auction at best. you get what you see, except for the SDs which are part of what you see, but the text says you get the originals. I doubt seller will even re-install them
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