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post #76 of 570 (permalink) Old 09-25-2018, 01:49 AM
 
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Re: Ibanez 2019 NAMM Speculation Thread

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There is something good coming you won't be expecting.
Here are three:

- Release 2019 models in late 2018, before Christmas, and skip NAMM.
- Put Edge bridges on all JEM's regardless of where they are made. Drop the JEM Jr. variants, or not, but they would not get an Edge.
- Make stainless steel frets Prestige guitars standard. The theme being "eliminate variables across similar guitar lines by replacing them with a higher-quality standard feature."

I won't be expecting these things to happen and I think there is an element of good in each one. The only thing I am certain of is people will complain no matter what Ibanez chooses to do.
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I used to be all about rosewood until the RG20th gave me an appreciation of maple boards. I like them both pretty equally but I admit I dig some of the options out there. I'd even like to try jabota which is being seen as the cheaper board on the budget model. I'd still like to try them out.

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I hope that 2019 brings some new AZ models with HSH pickup configuration. Preferably with exotic tops and no pickguards.
An HSH AZ 24 fret without a pickguard would be dope! And maybe a fixed bridge.
I get the feeling we might see a locking bridge (Edge) AZ which I'm not sure is a great idea.
Also, again not to sound snobbish but a standard Indo AZ should be avoided. I think it should remain Prestige and Premium. I get a sense that Ibanez won't be able to help themselves and an Iron Label version will show up.

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Here are three:

- Release 2019 models in late 2018, before Christmas, and skip NAMM.
- Put Edge bridges on all JEM's regardless of where they are made. Drop the JEM Jr. variants, or not, but they would not get an Edge.
- Make stainless steel frets Prestige guitars standard. The theme being "eliminate variables across similar guitar lines by replacing them with a higher-quality standard feature."

I won't be expecting these things to happen and I think there is an element of good in each one. The only thing I am certain of is people will complain no matter what Ibanez chooses to do.
Would releasing earlier make earlier shipping more likely? Sounds like they would still have the same structural problems in delivery and China eating their allocation as Rich has noted.
I like making all Jems Edge, even the Premiums.
I'm not sure I'd like universal stainless frets. I like them on the AZ but I wouldn't want them on every guitar. Tonally I think I like nickle better too.
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Re: Ibanez 2019 NAMM Speculation Thread

Ebony back on the Jem 7V would be great, honestly.
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Ebony back on the Jem 7V would be great, honestly.
Ebonies are definitely on the CITES hit list as most species are already endangered, far more so than most Rosewoods.
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Is this the year Richlite shows up on an RG? hehehehe!
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Is this the year Richlite shows up on an RG? hehehehe!
Richlite looks and feels like Ebony so no real hardship there.

Chopping rare trees down to make guitars is no longer necessary or desirable, the industry would be better focussed on improving manufacturing tolerances and quality control.
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Richlite looks and feels like Ebony so no real hardship there.

Chopping rare trees down to make guitars is no longer necessary or desirable, the industry would be better focussed on improving manufacturing tolerances and quality control.
I'm down with trying new things. I'd love to check out a guitar with Richlite, especially an RG.
Traditionalism runs deep in the guitar community though.
Let's make an acrylic RG with Richlite!!!!!
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I'm down with trying new things. I'd love to check out a guitar with Richlite, especially an RG.
Traditionalism runs deep in the guitar community though.
Let's make an acrylic RG with Richlite!!!!!
It might be a bit heavy, Basswood is nice and light and easy to work with and, like Maple it ain't exactly endangered.

Stainless frets on a Richlite board would last a whole lifetime of playing, carbon rebars in the neck would guarantee stability, the guitar could be perfectly set up at the factory and never need touching again no matter where it was shipped and used. Just change the strings when they wear out, skilled guitar techs would go the way of the Dodo...
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I was half joking on the acrylic. More a joke on all artificial / non-wood materials.
Or maybe metal bodies like the James Trussart stuff.
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Ebonies are definitely on the CITES hit list as most species are already endangered, far more so than most Rosewoods.
Madagascar Ebony is on the CITES list. There are 300+ species of ebony and one is on the CITES list. ALL of the Dalberghia (rosewood) species are CITES restricted.
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Madagascar Ebony is on the CITES list. There are 300+ species of ebony and one is on the CITES list. ALL of the Dalberghia (rosewood) species are CITES restricted.
Ceylon Ebony has been a protected species since 1994, Mauritius Ebony was nearly all harvested by the Dutch, then the British, a few species became extinct as a result, the rest of them aren't black. Of the black Ebonies, all are protected. Black Ebony is much scarcer than Rosewood which is a recent addition to CITES, mainly to stop the Chinese eating it all or rubbing it into their penises or whatever it is they do with vanishingly rare commodities.
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Ceylon Ebony has been a protected species since 1994, Mauritius Ebony was nearly all harvested by the Dutch, then the British, a few species became extinct as a result, the rest of them aren't black. Of the black Ebonies, all are protected. Black Ebony is much scarcer than Rosewood which is a recent addition to CITES, mainly to stop the Chinese eating it all or rubbing it into their penises or whatever it is they do with vanishingly rare commodities.
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I used to be all about rosewood until the RG20th gave me an appreciation of maple boards. I like them both pretty equally but I admit I dig some of the options out there. I'd even like to try jabota which is being seen as the cheaper board on the budget model. I'd still like to try them out.



An HSH AZ 24 fret without a pickguard would be dope! And maybe a fixed bridge.
I get the feeling we might see a locking bridge (Edge) AZ which I'm not sure is a great idea.
Also, again not to sound snobbish but a standard Indo AZ should be avoided. I think it should remain Prestige and Premium. I get a sense that Ibanez won't be able to help themselves and an Iron Label version will show up.



Would releasing earlier make earlier shipping more likely? Sounds like they would still have the same structural problems in delivery and China eating their allocation as Rich has noted.
I like making all Jems Edge, even the Premiums.
I'm not sure I'd like universal stainless frets. I like them on the AZ but I wouldn't want them on every guitar. Tonally I think I like nickle better too.
gimme all stainless steel frets, ANY day. When a lot of other makers are really pushing them, it would be good to have them on MIJ ibbies as well. I woulda been willing to pay an extra 10,000 upcharge on my 550RF if it had had Stainless frets.
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I'm down with trying new things. I'd love to check out a guitar with Richlite, especially an RG.
Traditionalism runs deep in the guitar community though.
Let's make an acrylic RG with Richlite!!!!!
I'd be down with Richlite too. Would solve the problems of CITES in an instant. I am not even sure why Ibanez still has this obsession with rosewood, that needs to stop.
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I'm good with stainless frets on the AZ but I don't like them enough to want them on everything. Different strokes I suppose. I do love that stainless lasts a heck of a lot longer though.
I wonder if richlite is expensive? Maybe if it's cost effective they could test run on the standard Indos or Iron Labels?

Is also like to reiterate that it would be cool to see a maple board RG550 in a standard solid color with a solid white pickguard and white pickups. I saw a pic of Bruno Mars with a SSS RG basically like that and it looked great! Why do RG550s *always* have to have black pickguard with black pickups?
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