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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-06-2010, 04:08 AM Thread Starter
 
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Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

hey guys! im planning on getting a new guitar soon and im still in the process of choosing...would like some opinions/thoughts. I'm unable to provide links as im a new member but if you type ibanez j custom on e b a y the first ibanez is from ishibashi and the second is from meestursparkle.

Ibanez J Custom RG8570DR USED - comes with un-original case for $1700 AUS.


[SPECIFICATION]
Body : Flamed Maple(Top), Mahogany(Back)
Neck : 5 Piece(Maple+Bubinga)/Wizard neck
Finger board : Rosewood(Flame Maple binding)
Fret : Custom Jumbo(SBB216-195)
Bridge : Edge Pro
Neck Pickup : DiMarzio Air Norton(H) neck pu
Middle Pickup : DiMarzio Blue Velvet(S) mid pu
Bridge Pickup : DiMarzio Tone Zone(H) bridge pu

vs

Ibanez J Custom RG8570Z RS BRAND NEW with case and paperwork for $2400

Body:Flamed Maple / African Mahogany body
Neck:5pcs Maple / Walnut j.custom neck
Fingerboard:Rosewood fingerboard with “Tree of Life” inlay
Bridge:Edge-Zero Tremolo bridge w/ZPS3
Neck P.U DiMarzio� Air Norton� (H) neck P.U
Mid P.U DiMarzio� True Velvet� (S) mid P.U
Bridge P.UiMarzio� Tone Zone� (H) bridge P.U

so my dilemma...is the fact that the first ibanez comes with an edge pro, but is used and missing its paperwork and case. Whereas the second ibanez is brand new with case and paperwork but has the edge-zero which I am a bit iffy about, and it will cost $700 more.
A little nitpicky thing I dont like is the second one doesnt have TEAM J CRAFT on the back or the same short paragraph that the first one has. I think I have the right to be picky when im spending this much.

what do you guys think? any input would be muchly appreciated.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-06-2010, 04:36 AM
 
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

Hey arterial,nice to see you on jemsite..

TBH both are very good guitars...but I would get the first one due to some reasons

1)its 700$ cheaper...you can download the manual from the internet and get a a prestige case that fits

2)I personally think that maple+bubinga looks better(but its a very small detail)

3)people will probably laugh at me for this but the Edge pro's have three neck shims on the top nut..so if you're locking nut is too high you can lower it without any problem(not there on the EZ afaik)

TBH the things that differentiate these two guitars are tiny details,so pick whats best for you
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post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-06-2010, 04:41 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

I guess it's the case which I'm sorta concerned about. I'd like to get myself a j custom case so it matches but I don't think anyone sells j custom cases?
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

Also, would you say the crack on the back of the first j custom could cause any problems down the line?
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

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Also, would you say the crack on the back of the first j custom could cause any problems down the line?
A crack on the back can be very dangerous..do you have any pics or do you know where the crack is?

then I would suggest you to stay away from it..

If you hate the Edge zero,you can get a JEM for that price with an original edge and finishing and quality thats upto J.custom standards...
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

It's only a cosmetic chip on the back of the body, nothing to worry about. Re: the case, I have 3 J Customs, 2 bought new from authorized dealers from the UK/Europe and they came in Prestige cases, the one from Japan is in a Team J Craft J Custom case. The RG8570 came in the older style (ca 2003) Prestige case, I don't recall ever seeing a J Custom version of this case ??
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

J custom cases have "j custom" engraved instead of prestige
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J custom cases have "j custom" engraved instead of prestige
Exactly, two of my J Customs (one Team J Craft, one the older style) have 'Prestige' on them and one (Team J Craft) has J Custom on it. The pre Team J Craft case my RG8570 is in has Prestige on it, like I say I don't recall seeing one of these with J Custom on, only the newer Team J Craft ones. Many J Customs were supplied new with Prestige cases as opposed to J Custom, however that one is not in the correct case anyway !!
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-06-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

No new Ibanez have the old 'team j craft' stamp anymore ,and more so why would you care?
Looks better without IMO.
You can't lose with either,sweet guitars and like i said in your other post, the old one is in it's correct case which is nice.
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-06-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

Just for the record,i would buy the new one.
It has the 'super wizard' 17mm/19mm neck which kicks major ass,the other has the fatter 'viper'/JCM 19.5/21.5 profile.

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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

j customs are great guitars.both of the mentioned guitars are top drawer,on that basis id go with the cheapest 1.
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

I would not worry about the paperwork and case. My vote is for option 1.
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-09-2010, 03:34 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Ibanez J. Custom 8570 DR vs Ibanez J. Custom 8570Z RS

Yeah im really thinking about option 1 now, gonna get it when my paypal money comes through. Ive asked a LOT of people about this decision already :P
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