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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-20-2019, 09:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hi,I have been playing the guitar for over 14years now (on and off) but I have never bought an Ibanez before for several reasons. I only have a 15-year-old korean made guitar brand "Phil-pro" (I guessed it was a RG 570 replica) and I like it a lot.

But, I think this is the time to buy myself the real Ibanez! This courage was actually inspired by accidentally crossing by a music store with their RG 550 and RG570 hanged on their wall! I asked the store guy and he said that Ibby japan brought out these monsters back with a crazily low price.
So, I am really serious of getting this one but the store guy yesterday also showed me that they also have old stock RG655 (with a bit higher price: $200 more) and used RG 1570z ( $150 less) which successfully confuse me.

I am going to try them in near future before buying. But I am new to Ibanez and I think I have to go to this forum to ask you guys before.

I am now confuse between those three. I put RG 655 and used RG 1570Z into my consideration because their price are still in my budget range (not far from the genesis) but they each comes with a hardcase.

But I realize that RG 1570z comes with an edge zero and not the edge original tremolo? and sadly, I don't have any experience of buying a used gear.

And some people say that the genesis' pickup is not as good as RG 655's Dimarzios so it is not unusual to see people upgrade the RG 550's pickups?

Is that true?

I am trying to find a guitar with wide range of versatility. I mostly play Rock 80-90s and Megadeth, DT, etc but sometimes I also like to play some blues.

Please help me,guys. Thank you.

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-21-2019, 05:25 AM
 
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The RG655 is the best choice of the four guitars you mention, it's worth paying a bit extra for those pickups but even better if you can haggle on the price.
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hello, Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing. But, I just received sad news. They said that they ran out the RG 655 since yesterday . argggghhhh...!!!

They offered me RG 652 AHM NGB instead, which actually costs about $300 more expensive ($100 more than my budget) than the RG 550. So, do you think that RG 652 really worth that extra dollars?

My friend suggested me take the RG 550 if I am ok with the pickups because surely only few people has it and so, the reselling price would not drop because the production was limited to 2018.
That makes sense.

But in terms of quality, do you think they have many differences?Thanks
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Haggle!
The 652 is better and will have superior resale value to the others, there are many rough edges on the reissues if the comments on here are to be believed and they're simply not as well made as the prestige line.
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Re: for Ibanez newbie: Genesis vs used RG 1750Z vs old stockRG 655

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Haggle!
The 652 is better and will have superior resale value to the others, there are many rough edges on the reissues if the comments on here are to be believed and they're simply not as well made as the prestige line.
You're not getting the scope, it's not Genesis, if it's Fujigen [and not a JEM777] if it's got a maple fretboard it has no fret end finishing. All models. The GC's are not inferior, they're the same as a 652AHM.

I've got 655's left on closeout.
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Hello, thank you for the quick reply. Seriously? I am shocked to hear that. The reviews on Youtube and sweetwater, etc. have always been so so positive and I haven't found any complaints at all. I guess I should pay attention to that issue when I try the genesis then.

Can someone in this forum who has tried or own the genesis please elaborate in this thread? Thank you
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Re: for Ibanez newbie: Genesis vs used RG 1750Z vs old stockRG 655

I've gone thru 20 of them, what do you want to know? The only different in a GC neck and a 652AHM is the AHM is birdseye and bound, the frets have no more treatment than a 550 does. Now a 570 has finishing as do all rosewood. Nothing on maple.
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Hi,Rich. Thank you for eleaborating. Btw, I am sorry, I don't understand what you mean. So, the bad one was fujigen own products("FGN"), am I correct?
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Hello, thank you for the quick reply. Seriously? I am shocked to hear that. The reviews on Youtube and sweetwater, etc. have always been so so positive and I haven't found any complaints at all. I guess I should pay attention to that issue when I try the genesis then.

Can someone in this forum who has tried or own the genesis please elaborate in this thread? Thank you
You should get with Rich and grab one of those 655's ^^^
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I wish I could, but I am not in America. I am in Indonesia actually. Yup, where they build their premiums. Even so, there is not much information about the factory here.

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No shipping on rosewood, and too cheap a model to international anyway.

Every Prestige Ibanez in made by Fujigen.
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oh ya, so, Chris, I just want to know your opinion: do you think other than esthetics and pickups, the genesis is just the same as the prestige 652?

If it is so and I could live with the pickups, I might prefer the genesis. Reason: I'll have some savings to get my pasifica 612 or schecter someday.
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No shipping on rosewood, and too cheap a model to international anyway.

Every Prestige Ibanez in made by Fujigen.
sorry, I am always late to give reply because of bad connection. Btw, yup, that is why I feel worse now

btw,I know that every Prestige is made by Fujigen. but I am sorry, I don't understand what you mean in your first post (besides saying that the GC is on par with the Prestige); you were saying something about Fujigen?
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Re: for Ibanez newbie: Genesis vs used RG 1750Z vs old stockRG 655

>if it's Fujigen [and not a JEM777] if it's got a maple fretboard it has no fret end finishing. All models. The GC's are not inferior, they're the same as a 652AHM.
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I've got 655's left on closeout.
Big recommend! I would buy this guitar, Joan.
Best of luck!
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