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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 05-30-2010, 06:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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Ibz/Dimarzio PUs - Quality?

Just wondered what people think of the stock Ibanez/Dimarzio PUs fitted to some Ibanez guitars - they are the usual black colour, with 'Ibz/Dimarzio' written on the top covers in white.

What sort of PUs are they?

Are they any good?

What standard Dimarzio PUs are they designed to sound like?

Would replacements be better - many here say Tone zone & Air Norton are a good combo; that's on Basswood though: I have an RGA321F, which is which is Mahogany (no idea which one!), and a thick maple cap (16mm at the center). Would it be worth swopping these?

I love the vintage PAF sound too, some hot Pus can be too 'dark'. What Dimarzio PUs would give the best (PAF type) sound in a RGA321F? Are Air Zones any good?

What about Seymour Duncan? What would sound better in my guitar: a vintage 59; or a Pearly gates?

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Re: Ibz/Dimarzio PUs - Quality?

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go...

they're made in the same factory as the other "real" dimarzio's, they're just designed to give a more basic, generic tone.
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heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go...

they're made in the same factory as the other "real" dimarzio's, they're just designed to give a more basic, generic tone.
+1

the "quality" is right up there with the other Ibanez pickups, the sonic character may not be to your taste.

from what I've heard myself, I'd swap them out. But then I do like the older IBZ/USA F series humbuckers and don't swap those out. Wierd huh!
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Re: Ibz/Dimarzio PUs - Quality?

As I've said in other threads...old 80's Ibanez stock pickups = awesome, DiM/IBZ = poop.
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The DiMarzio IBZ are far better than the other Ibanez designed Pickups, that they put in their guitars, for example infinity (INF1234) or vintage (V1/7/8 ).

But i'd still swap them out
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As I've said in other threads...old 80's Ibanez stock pickups = awesome, DiM/IBZ = poop.
im agreeing with jack.i thought there were total and utter garrbidge,just my opinion though.there will be better guitarists than me that like them so what do ya do.if your used to playing high end pups like evo's paf-pro tone-zone ect ect you will deffo not like these ibanez/dimarzio pups.
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Re: Ibz/Dimarzio PUs - Quality?

Thanks for the advice.

I like the 70s classic rocksound: I don't play with huge amounts of gain - think Angus Young, Michael Schenker; and I'm particularly fond of Billy Gibbons. Any advice on what replacement PUs would give the tone I after? Dimarzio; Duncans, whatever.
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The DiMarzio IBZ are far better than the other Ibanez designed Pickups, that they put in their guitars, for example infinity (INF1234) or vintage (V1/7/8 ).
..but the point is that the DiMarzio IBZ pups are not Ibanez designed anything, they are DiMarzios, based upon "classic" Dimarzio designs.

Have a look at the FAQ on DiMarzio.com, or one of the 100 or so threads on these things.
Plus there are different versions for different guitars (RG, S)
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Thanks for the advice.

I like the 70s classic rocksound: I don't play with huge amounts of gain - think Angus Young, Michael Schenker; and I'm particularly fond of Billy Gibbons. Any advice on what replacement PUs would give the tone I after? Dimarzio; Duncans, whatever.
For what you want, maybe PAF pro in the neck/Super Distortion in the bridge.
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replacing the bridge DiMarzio/IBZ with a Super Distortion is just plain silly, since that's what it is based upon.

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The DiMarzio®/IBZ pickups in the Ibanez RG2120 and RG2570EX are specifically designed and manufactured by DiMarzio® for Ibanez, and they are not available separately. Like all DiMarzio® pickups, they are made in our New York factory. Both neck and bridge pickups are high-output models. The neck pickup is fairly bright-sounding, similar to a Super 2™ (DP104). The bridge pickup is a little louder and warmer-sounding, and resembles a cross between the Steve Morse Bridge Model™ (DP200) and the Super Distortion® (DP100). The R1 single-coil is warmer-sounding than a typical vintage single-coil, and was designed to work well with the neck and bridge humbuckers when they are in split mode. It has a sound similar to that of the HS-2™ in split-coil mode.
if the DiMarzio/IBZ pups are too hot (>400mV) for your taste (or amp) you might want to try to move the IBZ/N into the bridge position and replace the neck with a lower output pup such as the PAFpro or Evo neck. But also Air Norton or Liquifire. All are at ~300mV.
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Re: Ibz/Dimarzio PUs - Quality?

Dimarzio/Ibz pups are not the same on RG and S. The ones on S are, in terms of output, similar to DiMarzio Air Classic.
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I'd call the DiM/IBZ pups a lot of things but 'hot' ain't one of them.
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Re: Ibz/Dimarzio PUs - Quality?

Hot means high output to me, so Dimarzio/IBZs are hot

I tried Tone Zones, Air Nortons, Super Distortions but I still go back to the Dimarzio/Ibzs. They sound just right in my RGA321F they're definitely not poop
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Dimarzio/IBZ-N = 400mV is extremely hot (compare Evo-N=294)
Dimarzio/IBZ-B = 425-450mV (SuperD-Morse) is also way hotter than for example Evo-B (404) Crunchlab (410) or Breed-B (356)
Dimarzio/IBZ-B is almost D-Activator hot (470)

In fact since it has more mids than D-Activator, with some amps it might sound hotter.
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Where are you getting these output figures from? or are you simply extrapolating without prose on the Dimarzio site that uses the phrases "similar" and "resembles".

Personally from the sound of the pickups I'd want to see "actual" output figures rather than make those assumptions, especially as a pickup might be "similar" to a Super 2, but have half the output. Same tone curve, same bright sound, same magnets, same construction but different output.

I think you're making too big a leap of faith eviltwin.
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