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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-17-2002, 10:47 AM Thread Starter
 
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Jackson Swee Tone Triple-Decker Anyone?

check her out...
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/SweeTone/CARVEDTOP3D.html

anybody even seen one or played one? of course no 7 string version :-( but well, for a guitar like this, who am I to judge..
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 08-19-2002, 07:28 AM
 
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pretty cool for a Jackson.
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Pretty cool period. No offense, but there is no Ibanez that can touch that. Also, you can get anything custom from Jackson, so you could have a 7 string version of that if you wanted.
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Pretty cool period. No offense, but there is no Ibanez that can touch that. Also, you can get anything custom from Jackson, so you could have a 7 string version of that if you wanted.
blah, Jackson forum is that way ------>

Ibanez doesn't need to try and touch it. It doesn't have to.
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$2899??? gimme a break. I'll take my USRG10 at 1/5 the cost... glen
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Hahahaha I love hearin this die-hard Ibanezers...
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Hey Polaris,

What is the matter, can't take some constructive criticism? I am neither pro Jackson nor Pro Ibanez. Fact is fact. Can you get a totally custom Ibanez? No. Can you honestly claim quality wise that any Ibanez production is the same quality off the line as a Jackson USA? What about compared to a Tom Anderson, Pensa, Suhr? Please. I liked my Jem fine. In fact I preferred it to many Jacksons. I was, however, not as well made. It just appealed to me more, but then again I am a huge Vai fan.
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Hey Polaris,

What is the matter, can't take some constructive criticism? I am neither pro Jackson nor Pro Ibanez. Fact is fact. Can you get a totally custom Ibanez? No. Can you honestly claim quality wise that any Ibanez production is the same quality off the line as a Jackson USA? What about compared to a Tom Anderson, Pensa, Suhr? Please. I liked my Jem fine. In fact I preferred it to many Jacksons. I was, however, not as well made. It just appealed to me more, but then again I am a huge Vai fan.
Ibanez J Custom to Jackson USA? For sure. Anyday of the week. Pensa Suhr, TA? No, but please don't dare put Jackson in their league. They are far from it.

Maybe Wayne Guitars, but certainly not Jackson USA.

Custom Jacksons and Custom ESPs are grossly over-priced. For the prices they charge, Eddie Kolsar would probably cut the friggin tree down himself, dry it, carve it etc.

You can keep your love affair of Jacksons. I've owned 2 USA Jacskons and 1 Japanese, and they all sucked compared to Ibanezes.

But whether or not you can handle it, that's my opinion.
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Just for giggles, I got a Jackson Custom quote:

7 string, with neck-thru and quilt top: $3950.

Yeah right. All for stuff that's on production USAs for a 1/3 that. Please.
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How heavy must that guitar be with a 3/4 inch maple top and a 1/4 inch ebony fretboard???? It's gotta weigh more than a les paul!!!
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The prices you are quoting are equivalent to the list price and when you give the quote to a reputable Jackson dealer, the cost is significantly lower...more in the $2500 range or less. I think the good dealers usually give around 40% off that, but I am not sure. I would agree that the price you quoted IS ridiculous, but it is just not what you would pay.

One last thing Polaris. Why can't you seem to grasp the fact that I am just discussing the issue. I am not a Jackson fan. Infact, I would probably purchase at least two Ibanez that I can think of before I would buy a Jackson. They are just not usually my cup of tea. I do believe that although I prefer the Jem, many Jacksons that I have seen are simply better made and use higher quality woods and parts. I still prefer the feel and tone of the Jems that I have played, but that is me. Get over your Ibanez ass kissing and realize that it is ok to like more than one brand. I dig Ibanez. That said, I will NEVER buy one new. They are not worth the money IMHO. I would buy an Anderson, maybe a PENSA, or SUHR, but I doubt it. I tend to buy used anyway because I think many are overpriced if not all. I would buy a new guitar from a company that would make me EXACTLY what I want with the highest level of quality. other than that, I will buy used.
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"SPRUCE BODY"...does that refer to the wings on the sides of the mahogany neck through? The body looks very close to a Zion. For that money a fretboard binding would be nice.
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The prices you are quoting are equivalent to the list price and when you give the quote to a reputable Jackson dealer, the cost is significantly lower...more in the $2500 range or less. I think the good dealers usually give around 40% off that, but I am not sure. I would agree that the price you quoted IS ridiculous, but it is just not what you would pay.

One last thing Polaris. Why can't you seem to grasp the fact that I am just discussing the issue. I am not a Jackson fan. Infact, I would probably purchase at least two Ibanez that I can think of before I would buy a Jackson. They are just not usually my cup of tea. I do believe that although I prefer the Jem, many Jacksons that I have seen are simply better made and use higher quality woods and parts. I still prefer the feel and tone of the Jems that I have played, but that is me. Get over your Ibanez ass kissing and realize that it is ok to like more than one brand. I dig Ibanez. That said, I will NEVER buy one new. They are not worth the money IMHO. I would buy an Anderson, maybe a PENSA, or SUHR, but I doubt it. I tend to buy used anyway because I think many are overpriced if not all. I would buy a new guitar from a company that would make me EXACTLY what I want with the highest level of quality. other than that, I will buy used.
Get over yourself chief, I'm not an Ibanez ass-kisser. I have other brands besides Ibanez. I just really happen to hate Jacksons, because I think they're over priced, their customer service is a joke even on USA models, and they definitely don't give you 40% off on a custom.

My friend's shop has been a Jackson dealer for 7 years, and I've given Jackson 3 shots at pleasing me.

But they've failed each time.

If this were a PRS, Hamer, ESP, or any other thread, I wouldn't have even bother debating with you.

But once again, since you've seemed to have missed this part:

It's my opinion. I hate Jackson. So get bent.
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By the way, why do people always equate hating Jackson (an opinion in the first place) to being an Ibanez ass kisser?

What the f*ck does not liking a brand makes me kiss the ass of another?

If I didn't say I had an Ibanez, I could just as well be playing a Parker or PRS.

DLHelfand, you must be on a quest to be a friggin know-it-all, because this is your second thread in just as many days where you're trying to prove someone's opinion wrong, which is impossible.
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Polaris,

How about you stop trying to slam me in posts then. I think it is funny that you email me in private and ask me to stop posting because you are going to argue my posts. Then you go and post again.

I never denied anyone there opinion. Not you, not anyone. Once again, I guess I have to explain to you that I am not a Jackson fan either. The reason I am discussing Jackson is because that is what this thread is about (see above )

I call you an Ibanez ass kisser because you have dissed everything I have said with no basis, just pro Ibanez rhetoric. If I am wrong, SORRY. I don't care what you play, what you like, or who you are. You are entitled to that.

I am not a know it all. I don't claim to be. I posted in two threads that I do know about. You sound like a jealous little, petty child. In the Tom Anderson thread, I wasn't addressing you, I was in fact answering someone else's question. I answered it accurately.

As far as the Jackson price issue. Feel free to email me your price quote/spec sheet and let's see if I can't come through with a much cheaper price. I didn't say all dealers, I said some reputable dealers. They are out there. I know of a few. There are "special" dealers for all brands. Deal
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