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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 04-23-2001, 07:06 PM Thread Starter
 
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K7 Prototype and other 7-strings... - As seen on Family Valu

I was watching my Family Values Tour '98 video, and noticed that in most of the songs, Munky and Head are playing K7 prototypes. *The differences? *Well, Munky's is a little darker with all white hardware and white "Strat style" volume knob, and a single paw print inlay instead of "K7" inlay. *Head's is an interesting color, not sure what it is though cuz of the lighting, it's an awesome finish though. *It may be exactly like the K7 without the inlay. *Anyone know what pickups are in these prototypes? *If they are the same as the K7s, check out the FV video and CD for sound clips. *

Also, Ryan Shuck of Orgy is playing what appears to be an "RG-niverse". *It looks like a white RG-7 with a pickguard and a single coil in the middle. *It has dot inlays though, I think. *Anyone know anything about this guitar? *

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Also, it has AANJ, do all Ibanez guitars have that now?

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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 04-23-2001, 08:11 PM
 
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The guitars used by Korn back in '98 probably weren't "prototypes" for models they were going to release. At that point they probably had no intention of ever releasing their own model. As for pickups, my guess might be Blaze's...But anything is possible. I've even seen them both dink around with some Seymour Duncan JB-7s at some points but they seem to have settled on the PAF7's. The PAF7s were not being made at that point so they cant be those. Although I'm sure if they really wanted one back then DiMarzio would have had no problem making some up for them.

As for Ryan shucks RG7...it is either one of 2 things...a custom built RG7 by Ibanez (which i doubt), or a customized white RG7621. He had an angle jack put in, *and routed for a single coil (there is no pickguard). thats my best guess because ive seen the "RG series" logo on the headstock and it has a fixed bridge. pair that with the dot inlays and it is most defintely an RG7621.
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As for Ryan shucks RG7...it is either one of 2 things...a custom built RG7 by Ibanez (which i doubt), or a customized white RG7621
Actually, if I remember correctly, Ryan is endorsed by Ibanez, so it very well could be a custom.
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Todd is right, Ryan is endorsed by Ibanez.
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Actually, he's endorsed by Ibanez and Schecter (for their 5-strings). *Anyone have an answer to the AANJ question though?
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Actually, he's endorsed by Ibanez and Schecter (for their 5-strings). *Anyone have an answer to the AANJ question though? *

Also, I noticed during "All In The Family" with Limp Bizkit, Munky's using a UV777BK, and in a GuitarOne interview with Korn, there's a pic of Head holding a UV777BK and I noticed a '97 model UV7BK (I'm getting pretty observant! lol). *So quit picking on Korn! *They're Vai fans too and obviously know quality! *lol *

Any of you who don't pick on Korn or are Korn fans, ignore this message. *
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most ibanez guitars have AANJ. the cheap models and the JS series don't have them and maybe some others.
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Also, it has AANJ, do all Ibanez guitars have that now?
Well the JS models don't *Most new RG do, as well as the 7s... glen
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post #9 of 32 (permalink) Old 04-28-2001, 12:21 PM
 
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Just because your endorsed by the company doesnt mean you have custom guitars made by them. Most do sure...but back when bizkit was big and Wes endorsed Ibanez what was his main guitar? A beaten up RG7620. I'm sure if you went through the list of endorsees for Ibanez, a good amount probably use just factory models. But as for Ryan I'm sure if it was custom he'd have a little more to it then was there. dot inlays? i mean cmon. and most custom Ibanez guitars I see dont have "RG series" on the headstock. this is why i assume its a 7621.
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through the time when he was endorsed by ibanez and when bizkit was big('98-'00), wes had two custom rg7621's, a custom ax7, a custom ax 4-string and a custom s7, and maybe a few more. ryan may very well have had a custom at about that time(family values '98 video). which was the same time wes got his first(?) custom rg7621. after they got endorsments and before they got their customs, both wes and ryan used production model rg7620's(wes also used self-customized production models: a white rg7621, and a few uv's).

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And of course, Ryan Shuck now plays custom Ibanez, Schecter, Jackson and anybody-else-who'll-give-him-one-for-free guitars.
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I have the Family values CD and video, and judgeing by their "cleaner" sounding distortion, I assume they were not using the blaze's in their guitars. I have a couple tapes of performances from 93'to 96' (not counting the FV video) and I'm pretty sure they're using the PAF7's because their old tone sounded like mud, and now you can actually hear the notes they're playing alot clearer. I saw them in concert for the sick and twisted concert last year, and head was using the same guitar on the video. The finish on it is a kind of silver fading to black color. I think they're just custom guitars, and then they finally decided to start the signature models based on their customs. That's what ibanez says anyway.
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I read on the ibanez web site (from 98') that Wes was having a custom RG7 made by ibanez BEFORE they started to work on their second album. Of course I haven't read that in awhile, but I'm pretty sure about it. Plus, I read in guitar world he had all his sevens with EMG's. I know he had a custom neck-thru seven string, a custom 7 with four knobs(probably 2 volume and 2 tone)with an on/off/on toggle, and the AX and the white one. It doesn't surprise me he switched back to a 6 string though, he wasn't even using a conventional 7 string tuning. He said it himself that he can play all their stuff on a 6.
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I have pics of Wes with some of his rg7's and they have dimarzio pickups in them. I think the only one the had emg's in it was the s-series neck-thru custom. Though I could be wrong. *
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I noticed that too, But to me the pickups in the S guitar look like dimarzio's. I've never seen EMG 7 string pickups without the bass guitar case like the one in dino from fear factory's new custom Universe. *
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