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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-15-2004, 12:51 AM Thread Starter
 
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Line6 Variax Acoustic

Check this out, especially the video. Sounds sweet

http://www.line6.com/VariaxAcousticPreview/
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Yeah, i've seen this, surprisingly good sound and amazing functionality, definately a cool thing to have...can't beat the real thing, but what's the chance you will have all these instruments at hand...
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Yeah, i've seen this, surprisingly good sound and amazing functionality, definately a cool thing to have...can't beat the real thing, but what's the chance you will have all these instruments at hand...
Yea, and my main thoughts is that it's a great guitar for live shows where you're running from piezo to the board. Cuz, really, unlike most of Line6s gear the Variaxs always seemed more like live guitars than studio guitars. And when comparing normal piezo to this new Variax acoustic, the Variax sounds great
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I just checked out that video yesterday, too. Very cool. The alternate tuning and virtual capo features look awesome... nothing new, really... Roland had those features built into the VG-8 ages ago. But it's amazing to see them built into the guitar itself. The Variax electrics don't even have those features, do they?
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I just checked out that video yesterday, too. Very cool. The alternate tuning and virtual capo features look awesome... nothing new, really... Roland had those features built into the VG-8 ages ago. But it's amazing to see them built into the guitar itself. The Variax electrics don't even have those features, do they?
Nope, the electrics don't have any pitch shifting features.

I personally want to see Line6 come out with a bridge system that can be installed on any guitar (y'know, give strat/hardtail and tune-o-matic options) like the various aftermarket piezo systems out there. I love the idea of the Variax, I just have no need for an expensive guitar that just doesn't look or feel right to me.
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With the launch of the Variax 700 series, the Variax 500s are now US$799, which is almost impulse-buy territory for messing around. I think i'd probably find more use for the Variax acoustic, though, just for the alternate tuning features alone. Does that thing have a headphone jack?
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With the launch of the Variax 700 series, the Variax 500s are now US$799, which is almost impulse-buy territory for messing around. I think i'd probably find more use for the Variax acoustic, though, just for the alternate tuning features alone. Does that thing have a headphone jack?
I don't think so, but it wouldn't be too hard to plug it into an amp or small mixer that did. We'll have to wait and see though.
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As cool as I think this thing is, I don't understand why it's actually a hollowbody, when it's modeling everything anyway. What's the importance of timbre when it's all going through the hex pup anyway? The main disadvantage to this is the natural volume of the guitar coming through while you're in alternate tunings. It would screw me up to hear the original and altered key at the same time.

For the price, I'd rather spend a couple hundred more and get a Godin Multiac, made in North America.

I know, different purpose, but it would have way more potential with the synth pickup.
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The main disadvantage to this is the natural volume of the guitar coming through while you're in alternate tunings. It would screw me up to hear the original and altered key at the same time.
Ayup. This effect is bad enough with my VG-88 and an internal GK-2 hex pickup on my RG570; with the loudness of the original note from an acoustic I think it'd be very, very offputting to play.
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The main disadvantage to this is the natural volume of the guitar coming through while you're in alternate tunings. It would screw me up to hear the original and altered key at the same time.
Ayup. This effect is bad enough with my VG-88 and an internal GK-2 hex pickup on my RG570; with the loudness of the original note from an acoustic I think it'd be very, very offputting to play.
Unless of course you have your acoustic amp cranked, or your headphones are extremely well isolated.

I think they'd have been better off making it like a Chet Atkins CE model or something.
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Yea, that's a good point, which I thought of myself after posting here. Except for the octave down setting, you'd get really disoriented. But even for the other options it seems like a better piezo system than most I've heard.
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Unless of course you have your acoustic amp cranked, or your headphones are extremely well isolated.
I found it pretty odd no matter how loud I was playing - it could be feeling the vibrations through the guitar, maybe, but it was a bit offputting. Nothing you couldn't get used to...
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Unless of course you have your acoustic amp cranked, or your headphones are extremely well isolated.
I found it pretty odd no matter how loud I was playing - it could be feeling the vibrations through the guitar, maybe, but it was a bit offputting. Nothing you couldn't get used to...
I'd still rather have a Multiac plugged into my computer running Reason.
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Perhaps if you got one of those rubber sound-hole plugs?
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Perhaps if you got one of those rubber sound-hole plugs?
Excellent point. That'd probably help quite a bit. They body would still resonate, but that would cut down on a lot of the volume.
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