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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-01-2010, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
 
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lo-trs II

Hey, im not thinking of buying a guitar with this tremolo system, but im really intrigued as to what actually makes this tremolo so bad? as in why does it not stay in tune, is it the materials its made out of? (im only going by what people have said, i have never tried a guitar with this bridge on it.)
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-02-2010, 09:40 AM
 
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Re: lo-trs II

The knife edges are part of the baseplate, and the baseplate isn't hardened so the knife edges just go blunt - then the bridge won't return to neutral properly.

The bar also just rattles around in the socket - there's no bushings or anything, just the screw-on collar which stops the bar falling out. So subtle vibrato is not going to happen unless you enjoy the accompanying "clunk clunk clunk".
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-03-2010, 12:25 AM
 
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And the saddles break easily as well...Happened to me...
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-03-2010, 12:31 AM
 
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Re: lo-trs II

Everyone complains about them. I'll be the guy that plays devil's advocate.

I have a lo-trs2 on a S470DXQM that I've played for almost 10 years. It ALWAYS stays in tune, no matter how much I wail on the trem. I can leave it for 3 weeks then pick it up and it's in tune. I've played shows of an hour plus and haven't had to tune at all during the show.

I like my low pros better for feel, but based on my experience if everything in the world worked as well as "my" lo trs2 trem, it would a happy world.
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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-04-2010, 07:54 PM
 
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Re: lo-trs II

Hey, i have an S470 QS, with Lo-Trs II trem, but i never had any problems, you've to set it up well, and i think its a nice floyd rose. Not a LoProEdge, but its nice.-
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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-06-2010, 12:23 AM
 
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Re: lo-trs II

Can someone fill me in on what the differences are between the LO-TRS and the LO-TRS II. I am currently puting an RG 470 together from parts. I understand that these guitars came with the LO-TRS, so that's what I bought for it. I haven't recieved it yet. Just wondering what the differences are between the two. Are they interchangable?
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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-06-2010, 01:11 AM
 
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Re: lo-trs II

The LO-TRS is manufactured in Japan by Takeuchi (I think that's spelled correctly).

The LO-TRS II is manufactured in Korea by ???

The Korean "II" model is made from soft pot metal, coated in a hard coating. Once this coating wears down (will inevitably happen) you will have soft knife edges that will never stay in-tune and level.

The Japanese model is made out of much harder materials, and will last a lot longer. It unfortunately gets a bad rap by some due to its crappier counterpart, but it is actually a far better unit which is perfectly usable and stable.
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Re: lo-trs II

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The LO-TRS is manufactured in Japan by Takeuchi (I think that's spelled correctly).

The LO-TRS II is manufactured in Korea by ???

The Korean "II" model is made from soft pot metal, coated in a hard coating. Once this coating wears down (will inevitably happen) you will have soft knife edges that will never stay in-tune and level.

The Japanese model is made out of much harder materials, and will last a lot longer. It unfortunately gets a bad rap by some due to its crappier counterpart, but it is actually a far better unit which is perfectly usable and stable.
Thanks for the info. I know I'm gonna seem like an idiot, but what exactly is a "knife edge" on a Floyd Rose type bridge. I have been playing and working on all sorts of guitars since the early 90's, but Floyds are new to me. I was always intimidated by them, and have stayed far away. Now I own a couple of them, and want to learn all I can.

So, what are the knife edges. I'm see the term mentioned a lot here. I never had the courage to ask, but if I don't, I'll never know. I've been assuming they are the beleved pivot points where the bridge meets the posts.
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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-06-2010, 03:04 AM
 
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The knife edge is the part of the baseplate that sits on the pivot points on the studs screwed in the guitars body.
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Re: lo-trs II

Thanks! That's what I thought. So, can these knife edges be filed or ground down when they become rough? I'm also seeing listings on the bay for LO-TRS III trems. What's the differences with these. Also are the dimensions of all three of these similar. Can one be used in place of the other?

On a similar note, what are the choices of bridges that I can use in place of a LO-TRS on an RG470? I know the Original Floyd is suitable, but I don't care for the location of the fine tunners on the OFR. My hand kind of wants to be right where they happen to be situated. I like to pick really close to the bridge sometimes.

Phantom, thanks for taking the time to answer my newbie questions. You're OK in my book.
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-06-2010, 04:36 AM
 
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Knife edges on quality units can be filled if they get a bit rough and the unit will work fine. LO-TRS II will eventually wear down to the soft pot metal, so they will be no good once you need to file.

I'd recommend a Gotoh licensed Floyd Rose, it's standard profile design like a Floyd Rose, but much lower profile, and far cheaper too. Best Floyd Rose type trem out there I believe. Check out the reviews section of jemsite for mine, and others reviews. I also have a review on my blog: http://www.lonephantom.com/?p=248
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