May go 7 for first time - Jemsite
All Other Guitars (including Prestige) Discussion about other Ibanez Guitars not covered in the above topics. Includes J-Custom, USA-Custom, Prestige subforum.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2011, 10:17 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: austin, texas
Posts: 691
Reviews: 3
May go 7 for first time

In preparing for my upcoming NGD, the idea of going 7 has started to appeal to me. I was originally dead set on getting another RG3120, but now I'm not so sure. The idea of having a 7(for the first time) is exciting to me. Especially if it's a UV or JP7. I like the idea of having standard tuning with low, ballsy notes still available to me. Besides a used UV or JP7, what would you guys recommend, and why?

As a note:
Not interested in anything with EMGs/actives(I'm fine to swap pups, but would rather avoid having to rewire and put in new pots/switch)
Must have a floating trem
*Looking for something that's not extended scale

Also, I'll probably be using that 7th dropped to A both for chunkiness and jazz style playing.

Last edited by texshred777; 01-28-2011 at 11:28 AM.
texshred777 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 1,641
Re: May go 7 for first time

I'd look at getting the RGD 2127, since its currently the only long scale 7 string Ibanez makes.

My personal annoyance with 7 strings is that they simply don't have enough scale length to put the required tension on the low B. It flubs around and you end up using huge strings to keep it tight enough. Usually so big the tone is compromised. On a long scale (26.5) guitar like the RGD, you'd have much less of that problem. The notes would also be less sharp when initially plucked, which I found was a big issue with my 7 string, to the point where I actually had to tune my low B slightly flat if I planned on chugging it, because the pick attack would make the note start off sharp.
GuitarBizarre is offline  
post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2011, 11:24 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: austin, texas
Posts: 691
Reviews: 3
Re: May go 7 for first time

Hm, I guess I erased that note(would rather keep with standard 25.5" scale)
texshred777 is offline  
post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 1,641
Re: May go 7 for first time

Hmmm...I'm not sure what to recommend in that case then. I really quite dislike said scale for its flubby qualities on my S7320. I suppose it'd be less flubby on a fixed bridge, but you asked for a trem...

Any particular reason for sticking to the shorter scale? Or is it just the idea of getting used to wider fingerings? I've never really had a problem widening my stretch so I can see how I'd appreciate a longer scale differently to someone who worries about that kind of thing.
GuitarBizarre is offline  
post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 175
Reviews: 2
Re: May go 7 for first time

My 7620 is a pleasure to play and much cheaper than the other options you have listed. I'm just say'n
cornstar70 is offline  
post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2011, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: austin, texas
Posts: 691
Reviews: 3
Re: May go 7 for first time

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre View Post
Hmmm...I'm not sure what to recommend in that case then. I really quite dislike said scale for its flubby qualities on my S7320. I suppose it'd be less flubby on a fixed bridge, but you asked for a trem...

Any particular reason for sticking to the shorter scale? Or is it just the idea of getting used to wider fingerings? I've never really had a problem widening my stretch so I can see how I'd appreciate a longer scale differently to someone who worries about that kind of thing.
Yeah, I'm concerned that the longer scale would just be too uncomfortable and awkward for me. I'll try and find a dealer around here who carries something in that scale and get back to you on that.

While it's been awhile I don't remember having any tension issues on the RG7620's I've played.
texshred777 is offline  
post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-28-2011, 10:32 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cincinnati Ohio
Posts: 35
Re: May go 7 for first time

Quote:
Originally Posted by texshred777 View Post
Also, I'll probably be using that 7th dropped to A both for chunkiness and jazz style playing.
I do this on all my 7 strings, and 5 string basses.
Guitar strings .009s with a .059 on the bottom.
nota is offline  
post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-29-2011, 12:33 AM
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Greece
Posts: 834
Re: May go 7 for first time

Since this is your first 7 I'd recomend an RG7620 too...
Really good guitar that can be found cheap used.
jazzedout is offline  
post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-29-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 675
Re: May go 7 for first time

What's your budget? New / used? As for strings, what gauges do you use on your sixes?
technomancer is offline  
post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-29-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 7
Re: May go 7 for first time

It's a little more on the pricey side, but you can't go wrong with a 2127. IMHO GuitarBizarre is dead on with the scale issues of standard 25.5" with the low B, though a lot of people get by without issues with a thicker gauge. All are great choices either way.
BlackStar7 is offline  
post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-30-2011, 08:30 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: austin, texas
Posts: 691
Reviews: 3
Re: May go 7 for first time

Quote:
Originally Posted by technomancer View Post
What's your budget? New / used? As for strings, what gauges do you use on your sixes?
I've given myself a budget of $1500 for a nice used instrument. On sixes, I tend to stay in one of three different tunings for extended periods(either standard, slack or drop c#) and use 9-42, 10-46, or 10-52 for said tunings.
texshred777 is offline  
post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-08-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 21
Re: May go 7 for first time

EBMM JP7's are sweet!
ILUVMYJP7 is offline  
post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-08-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 675
Re: May go 7 for first time

Quote:
Originally Posted by texshred777 View Post
I've given myself a budget of $1500 for a nice used instrument. On sixes, I tend to stay in one of three different tunings for extended periods(either standard, slack or drop c#) and use 9-42, 10-46, or 10-52 for said tunings.
For $1500 you've got quite a few options in the used space. JP7 or an old UV7 would work nicely if you like basswood. If you're patient you could also look for a 2027, though they don't come up all the time. If you wanted to make sure you like 7s without dropping a lot of cash you could RG7620 or S7420 (older japanese version). If you go 7620 or 7420 plan on a pickup swap as well.

As for tension/tone I'm doing drop A using Elixir 10-68s on a 25.5" KxK maple neck through with mahogany wings with absolutely no tension or tone issues. I'm playing mostly jazzy stuff currently on a BKP Cold Sweat neck pickup.

Last edited by technomancer; 02-17-2011 at 11:04 AM.
technomancer is offline  
post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-08-2011, 04:52 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Plainfield, Illinois
Posts: 2,810
Reviews: 11
Re: May go 7 for first time

Probably a uv7pwh or BK would be great. Or a 7620. Although, i 100% love my rg1527 and they have it with the EZ now if you want to really give it a test and see if you gain a new fav. trem
D.M.RG7620 is offline  
post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-09-2011, 07:02 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The FTL, Florida
Posts: 4,398
Reviews: 21
Re: May go 7 for first time

I miss my RG7620 but, yeah, it's a great seven. Very inexpensive used on the evil bay or other sites.
If I had the scratch I'd try to hunt down a good UV7PWH. I'd love to get an HSH 7 and that one looks really classy!
Too bad Ibanez doesn't put PWH on other guitars...
mike570 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Jemsite forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address

IMPORTANT: You will be required to activate your account so please ensure that your email address is correct.

If you do not receive your activation check your spam folder before using the CONTACT US form (at the bottom right of each page).



Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2nd Time painting (this time with a little more research) Speedabob Tech: Setup, Repairs and Mods 19 07-30-2010 09:23 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome