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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 11-24-2006, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
 
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My Main Workhorse Lately

i've always been an avid fan of MIJ Ibanez's, USA Jacksons (SL1) and now i have been gaga over my old, ugly ESP "The Mirage" from the early 90's. i got this guitar in a straight trade for a beat up Explorer from a fellow jemsiter. it seems like a USA SL1 Soloist in a lot of ways (just add an OFR and they are almost twins) and the strangest thing to me about the Mirage now being my main workhorse is the EMG's in it.
ALL of my guitars have passive pups except the ESP. i'm finding them (EMG's) to be cleaner and more balanced than my other guitars pups. i've never been a fan of EMG's but i've found myself playing this ESP more than ANY guitar i own. i usually have at least 3 guitars on stage with me: ESP, RGA121 (drop C tuning) and the third guitar i bring is rotated between whatever i feel like bringing that particular night ('90 777VBK, "Blackie", seems to be used most often).
i can't say enough good things about my ESP (which is also the only neck-thru guitar i have) and the use of EMG's.
i eventually want to refinish the guitar and install an OFR. it would be worth every penny to refinish it but for now the current finish has kind of grown on me.
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BTW - you can also see one of the worlds most expensive "pick holders"
i'm not much of a singer so figure:
pick holder $5
mic stand to put holder on $50
50ft mic cable $35
SM58 $100
so $190 to have something to keep my picks in reach -
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ESP's are unbelievably great guitars. Especially the neck-thru's loaded with EMGs. They almost seem to play themselves, and they sound incredible.

It's funny, because I have been on an EMG kick lately, too. I've always been a huge fan of passives, namely SD JB's and Distortions. I've always liked my M-II with EMG's, though, it was my best playing and sounding guitar, so I started to throw EMGs in other guitars lying around and have really been blown away.

I know EMGs get a bad rap, but they are very clean and very evenly voiced. I notice that it really pays to dial in my sound on my amp to the guitar I'm playing. I get better results. I wasn't too thrilled with the sound of my Caparison when I first got it. But now I'm using channels on my amp I never thought I would, and that thing smokes.
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i'd love to have that Mii of yours - sweet guitars. i'm gonna find myself a two hum EMG equiped guitar in the near future, just not sure what it'll be?
i have always liked the way SD's and other passive pups colored the sound and now i'm kinda digging the "seemingly" uncolored sound of these EMG's. i do have to change my amp settings when i swap guitars though. i guess that means i need more EMG equiped guitars to solve that dilema
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I used to love those late 80's early 90's ESP models, with the crazy graphics. They were awesome, especially The Mirage models with the pointy headstocks. That ESP had to replace due to the whole Jackson thing.

ESP made a Mirage model with a dollar bills graphic once. It looked awesome, and that was always my favourite. I will see if I can find a picture.
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i'd love to have that Mii of yours - sweet guitars. i'm gonna find myself a two hum EMG equiped guitar in the near future, just not sure what it'll be?
i have always liked the way SD's and other passive pups colored the sound and now i'm kinda digging the "seemingly" uncolored sound of these EMG's. i do have to change my amp settings when i swap guitars though. i guess that means i need more EMG equiped guitars to solve that dilema
It's funny, the "color" of passive pickups comes from the fact that they are rather "inexact" when they are wound, so there is a small margin of error in their voicing that provides that "sound".

Do what I've been doing, grab a couple of RG570s, or 520's, and throw some EMGs in it. Experiment with different combos. It's pretty easy with the quick connect deal they have going these days. One I would highly recommend is a 60A for neck.
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i'm just sooo impressed with this Mirage. it is very close to an SL1. i see these at auction for $400 up to $1200 depending on condition and all. so bang for the buck to get one under say $600 is a great deal.
i'm so happy with the EMG's in this ESP that i decided (last night) to install EMG's (81?, SA's) in my '88 Charvel model 4 that i bought NEW when i was in high school. that poor guitar has been totally refinished and had the frets leveled with new hardware added. i plan to add an OFR, EMG's and maybe ditch the lock nut (worst part of the guitar) for Sperzels.
this guitar was still in tune when i picked it up last night and it hasn't been played in well over a year and a half! given, the strings were waaaaay gross.
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It's funny, the "color" of passive pickups comes from the fact that they are rather "inexact" when they are wound, so there is a small margin of error in their voicing that provides that "sound".

Do what I've been doing, grab a couple of RG570s, or 520's, and throw some EMGs in it. Experiment with different combos. It's pretty easy with the quick connect deal they have going these days. One I would highly recommend is a 60A for neck.
interesting.
is the 60A a single or hum?
where is the best place to shop for EMG's? i'm wanting the 81 and SA set for my Charvel.
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interesting.
is the 60A a single or hum?
where is the best place to shop for EMG's? i'm wanting the 81 and SA set for my Charvel.
You know what's funny? I have that exact guitar. An '88 model 4, and I got it repainted and put an OFR on it. I threw in a Duncan Distortion, a Lil' 59, and a JB Jr, and it sounds really good, but I am going to put a EMG Steve Lukather set in it next. Especially since it still has the 9V battery clip in it, it is begging for actives again.

The SL set is basically an 85 and two beefed up SA's. You can get the set for a little over 2 bills some places. But there is really no good place to get great deals on EMGs. It's pretty much the same everywhere.

The locking nut on that thing sucks. It's like a flathead screwdriver type of thing. But I still use it, it works fine.
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the lock nut would be the last thing to deal with after the pickups get changed and an OFR is installed (with a D-tuna, of course).
i just did some googling and a SL or KH set installed on a pickguard and totally wired up is $239. not too bad i spose. i found that quote on "dons music" site.
how is the 85 compared to the 81?
i read a little but just wanted to hear your opinion.
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That's a pretty decent price, considering separate they list for around $100 a piece.

The 85 doesn't have as much bite as the 81, but it still sounds great. The sound clips on the EMG website aren't great at all, but they are relatively representative of the way they sound. The 85 is a little warmer and rounder than the 81.

The SA's are my favorite EMG single. They sound pretty good, but supposedly the singles in the SL set are a little bit beefier, so that's why I'm considering getting that set, vs an 85/SA/SA combo. Plus it will probably save me some cash as well.
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the SA's are $69 each and the 81 is $99 on that site so you get them wired and shipped free with a pickguard to boot.
do EMG's come with all the needed electronics for installation or do you have to buy that stuff seperatly?
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the SA's are $69 each and the 81 is $99 on that site so you get them wired and shipped free with a pickguard to boot.
do EMG's come with all the needed electronics for installation or do you have to buy that stuff seperatly?
Nope. They come with everything. Pots and all. Plus with the quick connect, If you have a couple of different ones, it is a matter of minutes swapping around to try a few different combos.

Only other thing I would mention, is that there is an 18 V mod, which really opens them up more. It is a night and day difference. It is very easy, you just hook up an extra battery in series. The only hard part is stuffing two batteries in the cavity!

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very interesting this "quick connect" idea. the 18 volt idea also sounds interesting.
i'm definitely going to upgrade my Charvel. i might have to try the 85 and SA's in that one just for variation.
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Hmmpphh....I would have never figured you for a traitor, demon

pick holder - $5
mic stand to put holder on - $50
50ft mic cable - $35
SM58 - $100
A 37 year old wearing holey jeans - priceless

Actually, ESP's are very nice guitars and I've owned a couple in the past. If I wasn't playing Jems or RG's, I'd probably be playing an ESP
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