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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-17-2003, 12:40 AM Thread Starter
 
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Neck comparison on RG's

Just curious who has a Ibanez America 2002 catalogue? Can you post what kind of neck is on the RG421 so I can compare to the RG421? I mean RG570 Thx!
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-17-2003, 01:18 AM
 
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Wow Scott. You are one of the rare instances of people who are too lazy to hit the backspace key. Join the club!

Anyways, I believe it has a Wizard II neck on it.
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I figured people would get a laugh out of it! I take it you are referring to the RG421 when you say Wizard II? Well forget the RG570 cause if my RG421 has the Wizard II I`m sticking with that. Original Wizard is a great neck, but just to wide for my hands
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Wizard and Wizard II both have the same nut width, it's the profile that's different.
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I found the old Ibanez neck chart last night on the homepage, and a listing of what models have which neck. As soon as I received my RG421 I could tell the difference. This is the first Wizard II neck Ibanez I have owned! Now I am wanting a RGT model
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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-20-2003, 12:14 AM
 
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The 400's all have the Wizard II. Which according to Ibanez spec sheets is different depending on whether or not it was intended for the japaniese market...

But you can tell- if it's made in Japan, on an RG, and has no bubinga stripe, it's likely a Wizard II. If it's got a Bubinga strip, then it's a Wizard. The Wizard II's are slightly thicker...
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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-20-2003, 12:52 AM
 
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Wizard and Wizard II necks have been pretty much unchanged for years.

Wizard, 43 mm width at the nut
56 mm width at the last fret
17 mm thick at the nut
20 mm thick at at the 12th fret
25.5 inch scale
430 mm fretboard radius

Wizard II
The only things that vary are these
19 mm thick at the nut
21 mm thick at the 12th fret
400 mm fretboard radius (the lower the radius, the more curved the fretboard is but 400 mm is still pretty damned flat)

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post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-21-2003, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
 
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If I'm thinking this out right in my head then it must be the 430mm Radius thats killing my hands when I play the Wizard
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post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-21-2003, 05:58 PM
 
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the radius on the wizard is not much different than the wizard II in feel but is flatter and that shouldn't give your hands problems. one thing that may give you problems is that the wizard neck is not just thinner than the wizard II but is much more flat on the back of the neck, you may find it more comportable on the wizard II because of the rounder shape of the back of the neck.
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post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-22-2003, 12:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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Exactly
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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-23-2003, 02:23 PM
 
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RG570 woes

I got my hands on an RG570 which I believe has a Wizard II neck and Edge tremolo.

The problem I have is that the fretboard is more curved than the curve of the string mounts in the tremolo, so when I lower the bridge the G string starts buzzing before the top E string is as low as I would like. This baffled me as I've always heard that ibanez guitars are great for low action but due to the bridge and neck radius being dissimilar I can't lower it as low as I want.

A friend has suggested that I raise the tremolo at the low E side and tilt it down on the high E side to lower the top strings, but won't this ruin intonation or should I just get a guitar with a compatible neck radius/tremolo radius?

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you could always shim the saddles to match the radius. use something thin like the shims for the locking nuts.
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post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-24-2003, 01:23 AM
 
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The 570 has a Wizard neck, not Wizard II (unless it was replaced with a W2 for whatever off-the-wall reason).

The Wizard neck has the flattest fretboard that Ibanez makes, and the bridge pretty well matches its radius.

Is the angle correct on the bridge? The NUT is often a little flatter in radius than the frets, but not so much as to make it uncomfortable to play.

As suggest, if the bridge really doesn't match the fretboard that well you can always use shims. There's a thread somewhere one here that talks about using soda cans (cut up of course) as pretty good saddle shims, just make sure you clean the can first. :-)

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Thanks for the replies, I will try shimming the middle strings that should sort this out.

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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-02-2003, 09:45 AM
 
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in the ibanez manual in the maintenance section about adjusting the neck and the curvature... does this mean that the neck will curve over time or only if you were to adjust it yoiurself?
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