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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-04-2012, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
 
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New Carvin Holdsworth headless guitar

I've heard all the good and bad about Carvin over the years. I've always wanted to try one myself, I have a handful of different models and specs in mind that would be nice to have. Time to add another one to the list.

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Re: New Carvin Holdsworth headless guitar

A good friend of mine is a Carvin dealer here in the UK and I've been lucky enough to play a fair few of their guitars and amps, including the original Holdsworth model. I can't think of anything bad that could be said about them, I know some think the pickups were meh, but they sounded great to me personally...top quality guitars at good prices, the most recent one I played was one of their Californian Carved Tops, PRS body shape, and it was flawlessly finished and played great to me, the great thing about guitar is that there is so much choice now, if you are looking for a good quality guitar you won't go wrong with Carvin, the only way to know what you want is to try for yourself, and see if YOU like it! Good luck if you decide to pull the trigger, this new headless guitar is on my wishlist for sure!
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Re: New Carvin Holdsworth headless guitar

The main complaint I hear about Carvins is that the quality of electronics aren't so great. They're installed with an almost anal-retentive level of detail, but the pots themselves are kinda cheap. FWIW, this is coming from the cork-sniffing crowd that rips out the wiring from a brand new Gibson Historic.

I've never played one, so I can't say, but I CAN say that I think electronics should be the least of your worries on an electric guitar.

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If the Holdsworth models sound like they do on the Planet X CD "Inertia" then they have a very horn-like quality, with no attack. It's an interesting sound, but not one I'd be in a rush to buy.

I also have no idea if the electronics are versatile or how much of that tone came from the amp vs. the guitar.
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Re: New Carvin Holdsworth headless guitar

I can't really say anything about the details of the pots, but I can say that the finish inside the control cavity is a work of art in and of itself, from all the Carvins I've played I've never encountered any problems with electronics, excess noise, or feel of the pots, we have to remember any piece of electronics can only do so much for your sound...replacing what one thinks is a substandard component for another won't drastically improve sound, plus when you look at a signal chain in its entirety who really knows what kind of things effect tone and to what degree. As for the sound of the Holdsworth unplugged its very resonant, and into an amp with distortion you can extract a wide variety of tones that you wouldn't expect from a hollow guitar. I think the horn like sounds were due to a lot of processing and effects rather than the natural sound of the guitar. I've seen vids of Holdsy playing a Charvel Strat and getting similar tones which you wouldn't really expect.
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I haven't played a Carvin but I have used some of their electronic parts in a few rebuilds and yes, the electronics are surprisings bad quality. They aren't horrible, but no better than your average no name import parts.
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Re: New Carvin Holdsworth headless guitar

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If the Holdsworth models sound like they do on the Planet X CD "Inertia" then they have a very horn-like quality, with no attack. It's an interesting sound, but not one I'd be in a rush to buy.

I also have no idea if the electronics are versatile or how much of that tone came from the amp vs. the guitar.
You sure that isn't just signal processing? Holdsworth uses synths and a lot of effects these days to get that horn-like sound.

To put it another way, if you plugged this into a cranked Marshall or Boogie, I doubt it would sound horn-like.
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Re: New Carvin Holdsworth headless guitar

That sound is Holdsworth's doing, not the guitar. From what I know, when he started playing he wanted to play sax but didn't have one so he learned guitar instead. He wanted to have the sound of a sax and that's how he goes for it. Pretty cool imo.
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I wanna get me one of these! Nice bright purple quilt top. Maybe get hold of an old Steinberger transtrem and drop that in. Definatly have to change the pickups, always disliked Carvin pickups. They just don't sound good to me.
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Re: New Carvin Holdsworth headless guitar

It looks like a "Vito Bratta" Newburgh Steinberger mated with a Tele.
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