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post #1 of 65 (permalink) Old 02-13-2008, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
 
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New DC727 - w/pics!

Well, the Carvin finally showed. Unfortunately, I now know why it was in QA for so damn long...

I appears they most likely put a fixed bridge on it and then had to go back and re-route for the floyd, because the route isn't the best fitting I've ever come across.

They also didn't install the floyd locking nut. Two thumbs way down... although I had contemplated this setup when ordering, I'm not so sure now.

So, aside from the gaffs on Carvin's part, what do I think?

On the upside:

- plays beautifully. Great setup work. It's set up basically identically to my Ibbys in terms of neck relief and action... they must be psychic.
- cool case (although it doesn't offer tons of protection, it took a hit during shipping that didn't make it to the guitar).
- stainless frets rock. They're so smooth!
- I actually don't mind the pickups (I'm not a metal guy)
- I thought they were going to **** the paint up. And when I first opened the case in a dark room, I was almost sure they had. But in the sun it's got that orange flame I was looking for. Two thumbs up!
- the string spacing seems (no, I haven't got the vernier calipers out to measure) a bit tighter than on my EdgePro Ibbys. I like it.
- I didn't really think you could improve on the AANJ for upper fret access, but I was wrong. The neck through really opens things up even more. Super comfy.


On the downside:

-WTF? How about some bubble wrap around the case for shipping?
- the forgot the locking nut :wallbash: Guess if I'm going to keep it I'll be ordering a tremol-no and making this my hard tail guitar with fine-tuners....
- along the lines of the the previous point, for someone used to playing Ibbys, the way the whammy bar sits and the spring tension of the trem is pretty bad... given, I'm not used to it, but it's really tight and the bar sits at a funny angle.
- I'm not sure what they strung the thing with, but the low B is a bit floppy and everything else is a bit tight. I'll restring...
- some of the finish work is a little iffy... like where they painted over the side of the fretboard in the upper register. I know they tape off the back of the neck, fine, but spraying the sides of the board is a little weird. And then there's the floyd route... I mean, it works fine, but for $1500 beans I expect perfection.
-the forearm cutout is too small, and the body shape makes it awkward to play sitting down

I'll see if I can post some sound clips later.









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Why would you except it if they massed up your order? Bad cavity and not locking nut. I would send it back and demand that they do it right. You paid for that stuff.
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Agreed. I would send it back immediately. There's no way you should put up with bad routes or mistakes on what is supposed to be a custom guitar built to the spec you asked for. Tell them to put a white Carvin logo on there too, you can't barely even see the black one. What were they thinking?

Aside from this, it's not a bad looking guitar. The Floyd copy is ugly, though. I'd choose a fixed bridge and cherry sunburst finish with black hardware. Yum.
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Floyd w/ no locking nut? Don't settle. Get it back to them.
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Send it back. I can't believe you kept the guitar. Send it back and get them to send you a brand spanking new one and give you a kickass discount for their f-up.

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Send it back man!!!!!!!
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Yeah man, this isn't like buying a sweater with a dangling thread. his is an expensive custom instrument.

Plus, now you said you have to buy the tremel-no and make it a hardtail. Spend more money on it so you can't use it properly because of their mistake?

That's bad logic my friend.
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I agree with everyone here. Although the guitar looks real nice, it isn't what you paid for. Just send it back
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Jesus. You guys need to settle down. The return policy is 10 days. I haven't officially kept anything yet. Relax.
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I can't believe carvin did that !
Floyd without a locking nut !
Seriously nobody there saw it ???!!!
Crap quality control,maybe drunk quality control.
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Jesus. You guys need to settle down. The return policy is 10 days. I haven't officially kept anything yet. Relax.
I certainly like the way you're thinking...
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Re: New DC727 - w/pics!

By the way, it's not a crime against nature that there's no locking nut. As I mentioned, I'd contemplated ordering this setup, because Carvin do indeed offer the Floyd without the locknut, ala JP7. It's not like no one else has or is selling guitars in this configuration.

Whether or not I keep it comes down to how well I like what I ended up with and how I like the sound it makes. Any dealings with Carvin to compensate me will of course be looked on favorably.
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Tell them to send you one routed for an Edge Pro 7, haha.... well, actually, there's no chance that they'll do that, for policy reasons. But, I don't know how useful that Floyd rip off is on those 7 string Carvins.
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Jp's music man doesn't have micro tunings so it's not a floyd.If it would have a locking nut you won't be able to tune that guitar without unscrewing the locking nut.So obviously Jp's guitars CAN'T have a locking nut.It's not an option.
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