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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 07-24-2014, 01:12 PM Thread Starter
 
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New to Ibanez Guitars

So I have been playing guitar for a long while now, but have never had the opportunity to play any mij or usa Ibanez's. I am well versed in the Kramer world and own several (let a few go as well) and I love my Grosh strat and old Fernandes tele. I have some questions about Ibanez guitars:

1) The wizard necks--they are thin, but would they fill up big hands?
I have a 89' BC Rish St3 that is thin and wide and I really enjoy it.

2) The RG model is famed with a great reputation...but are there models to stay away from if one would be in the market?

3) There are many different RG models, most with a rosewood/maple board option, but what about body wood--are they consistantly the same or different between RG models?

any insight is greatly appreciated!
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So I have been playing guitar for a long while now, but have never had the opportunity to play any mij or usa Ibanez's. I am well versed in the Kramer world and own several (let a few go as well) and I love my Grosh strat and old Fernandes tele. I have some questions about Ibanez guitars:

1) The wizard necks--they are thin, but would they fill up big hands?
I have a 89' BC Rish St3 that is thin and wide and I really enjoy it.

2) The RG model is famed with a great reputation...but are there models to stay away from if one would be in the market?

3) There are many different RG models, most with a rosewood/maple board option, but what about body wood--are they consistantly the same or different between RG models?

any insight is greatly appreciated!
1)They wouldn't "fill" up even small hands (mine is 7 inches from the edge of the wrist to the tip of the bird), but can be quite comfortable when your hand is positioned properly. Putting the thumb behind the neck or on the curvature and slightly over the neck seems to work for me.

2)Anything that starts with a G

3) The standard RGs have pretty much the same grade of wood, while the Prestige and J-Custom has a higher grade wood... I'm not sure about the Premium, but since mine sounds nice unplugged, I venture to say that it is made of a higher quality body than a normal RG.

The woods themselves, however, may differ. Most RGs are made of basswood, though you might find a few that are made of mahogany. The best way to be sure is to check the official site. http://www.ibanez.com/default.aspx

That is, however, information for the current lineup. Should you find a guitar from another lineup, you can ask for information about it here on Jemsite, and watch all the Ibby fans come to your aid.
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Re: New to Ibanez Guitars

Great information! Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I have always been on the lookout for some kind of Ibanez, but haven't gotten my hands on any that weren't the cheap ones you find everywhere.
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So I have been playing guitar for a long while now, but have never had the opportunity to play any mij or usa Ibanez's. I am well versed in the Kramer world and own several (let a few go as well) and I love my Grosh strat and old Fernandes tele. I have some questions about Ibanez guitars:

1) The wizard necks--they are thin, but would they fill up big hands?
I have a 89' BC Rish St3 that is thin and wide and I really enjoy it.

2) The RG model is famed with a great reputation...but are there models to stay away from if one would be in the market?

3) There are many different RG models, most with a rosewood/maple board option, but what about body wood--are they consistantly the same or different between RG models?

any insight is greatly appreciated!

1. I have big hands and Ibanez make some of my favorite guitars neck carve wise.

2. Stay away from the Indonesian stuff.

3. Usually basswood but they make a ton of guitars with different woods. The basswood body + maple neck and maple board are THE ibby combo!
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1. I have big hands and Ibanez make some of my favorite guitars neck carve wise.

2. Stay away from the Indonesian stuff.

3. Usually basswood but they make a ton of guitars with different woods. The basswood body + maple neck and maple board are THE ibby combo!
The Premiums seem nice, and having played one makes me feel like they are nice. Nice enough not to warrant avoidance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-76LhBzW00U
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I would take a used MiJ anyday over the premiums. The premiums are also a **** deal compared to competition at the same price point.
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Re: New to Ibanez Guitars

It's all about the hardware......

Get to know the in's and out's of all the various Ibanez bridges. Learn about which will serve you well into the future, and which to avoid.

For the most part, An RG is an RG. Anything in the RG3xx series and above are, essentially, the same guitars.

You first need to decide on you budget.

The next thing to figure out is hardware. Do you want a trem or a hardtail?
For me the bridges to avoid are these:
1. Lo-TRS II (The LoTRS is a good bridge)
2. Edge-Pro II
3. Edge III
4. Any single locking trem

Next you'll want to know about necks. Generally speaking, the thinnest will be the Super Wizard (17" radius), then the original Wizard (17" radius), then the Wiz II (16" radius), and finally the Ultra (16" or 17")

In comparison to what your used to, ALL RG necks will feel thin. There are many variants of the necks I mentioned above but getting to know these four will get you very close to finding "your" guitar. Ask as many questions as you can and, most importantly, take your time in the search. If we know your budget and your real preferences finding the right guitar will be pretty easy.

FWIW, there are some very good guitars that have come out of both Indonesia and Korea....... Japanese guitars may be the best, but they're NOT the only good ones Ibanez has made. Every Indo guitar I've touched/owned has needed a lot of tweaking and setup but they're ALL excellent guitars now.........solid as a rock and smooth as silk to play.
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I would take a used MiJ anyday over the premiums. The premiums are also a **** deal compared to competition at the same price point.
I concur
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Re: New to Ibanez Guitars

You guys are weird. Granted, I know what I think is "best", but it's silly to write something off due to general quality. It is worth picking up any Indo guitar you find in a store and play it to determine if it's good or not. I just got back from Magnus Olsson's place, and the MII he had found (chosen from many at the factory) was just as good as his custom made MIJ guitars. That guitar would have been sold in a store like any other MII if he had not picked it up.
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It's not weird - it's just preference. The MII Premiums are going for up to $1,200 or more new in the local music store here yet there are used MIJ Ibanez guitars with Dimarzio pickups here on Craigslist that I can get for less money, which I think is a much better deal for a higher quality instrument. That is why I was agreeing with Stealthy that I would much rather buy used MIJ than Premium. but I guess it depends on whether or not you have an aversion to buying used ;o)
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It's not weird - it's just preference. The MII Premiums are going for up to $1,200 or more new in the local music store here yet there are used MIJ Ibanez guitars with Dimarzio pickups here on Craigslist that I can get for less money, which I think is a much better deal for a higher quality instrument. That is why I was agreeing with Stealthy that I would much rather buy used MIJ than Premium. but I guess it depends on whether or not you have an aversion to buying used ;o)
For real, not to mention for $1200 you can buy a new MiJ ESP or a new Carvin --- both of which DESTROY any indonesian ibanez. Actually, some Carvin models start at 700-800 which is great for an American made guitar with a real top instead of some photo flame

The Japanese ibbys are still a steal used, 400-600 for an RG550 is unbeatable
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both of which DESTROY any indonesian ibanez.
Unless you have tried every indonesian Ibanez ever made, that is a lie.
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Unless you have tried every indonesian Ibanez ever made, that is a lie.
Exactly. I have a 3xxv that anybody here would be in love with after playing. The RG450 is a great deal for a very solid guitar as well.

You guys are talking about value...... there may be better buys out there (there always are) but you cannot say that Indo guitars are a bad quality of build. Honestly, can you name one serious problem the indo RG line has had? I can with a certain Japanese signature that lasted for years.
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I can take an RG3 and make it a guitar you can love, but out of the box most of them were awful. Not that I haven't had awful Japanese guitars, but the % in Indo is FAR higher, and the amount of problems FAR greater.
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For real, not to mention for $1200 you can buy a new MiJ ESP or a new Carvin --- both of which DESTROY any indonesian ibanez. Actually, some Carvin models start at 700-800 which is great for an American made guitar with a real top instead of some photo flame

The Japanese ibbys are still a steal used, 400-600 for an RG550 is unbeatable
As high quality as a USA Carvin might be, they don't have a body shape as cool as the RG. In that department, Ibanez DESTROYS Carvin, then hunts down their family and DESTROYS them too, then moves onto their friends, then casual acquaintances... Well you get the picture
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