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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-30-2010, 03:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

Arrived a week or so ago, and is even prettier than in the photos that convinced me to buy it. Body was flawless prior to shipping, but it got a ding on the back of the guitar in transit. Nothing terrible, and the seller was cool about and refunded me $100, so not the end of the world.

Mahogany body with what appears to be a Koa top, though the seller listed it as flame maple. If it's flame maple, I've never seen another piece with this kind of grain. Either way, it's quite the pretty top, and I've never seen this finish on another 3120.

Rosewood fretboard, that was in dire need of a clean up when it got here. I've done some basic cleanup, and the fretboard is in good shape now. I'll be changing the pickups soon enough, so I didn't do a full disassemble and cleanup of the pickup and trem cavities (which both need it).

Neither of the pickups in the guitar are to my liking, and will both be replaced immediately:

Dimarzio tone zone in the bridge. I love the tone zone in my basswood RGs, but Mahogany's dark enough sounding as it is, and the tone zone just exacerbates it in my opinion. It's not horrible here, but I think I'm gonna give the Crunchlab a shot, or possibly a Lawrence XL-500 (have one in my RG520QS and love it).

Dimarzio megadrive in the neck. I'd never played a guitar with one of these in the neck position, and I'm not feeling it in this one. Dark and muddy, with very scooped mids. Cleans sound dull and lifeless and single note runs lack definition. Might sound good as a bridge pickup, or in a lighter sounding guitar, but I'm generally unimpressed with this p'up.

Beautiful guitar that plays fantastically, and once I get the pickups swapped out, and order some replacement knobs from Rich I think I'll be in proper love. Now for some pics:












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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

Wow thats a beauty!! HNGD!
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

That is a beauty! Excellent score!
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

Looks great! I love those offset dots. Technically that isn't flamed, but it is highly figured.

Are those the original pups, I can't remember those coming with TZ+Megadrive?
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Looks great! I love those offset dots. Technically that isn't flamed, but it is highly figured.

Are those the original pups, I can't remember those coming with TZ+Megadrive?
You are correct sir, much less flame than any flamed Koa I've seen. So edited for accuracy

Honestly, the more I look at it, the more I think it may just be a nicely grained piece of maple. The top is a bit befuddling to me; an enigma I don't think I'll ever solve, no matter how many hours I mull it over...(which will be many) hahaha.

In regards to the megadrive, no this guitar didn't come stock with them. The only two mods by the original owner were to remove the PAF Pro from the neck and replace with the megadrive, and change out the factory five way for a Schaller Megaswitch. I would have much preferred the PAF Pro to the Megadrive, but different strokes for different folks I guess.
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Technically that isn't flamed, but it is highly figured.
Please post links to "technical" definition of flamed and provide "technical" examples of where figured becomes flamed becomes quilt.
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

AFAIK that is not quite curly, not quite flame, but more flame than quilt.
The main figuring runs top to bottom (the oval lines) not side to side, where the pattern is very faint.

"Technically" flamed koa should look like this, with much more pronounced side to side flames:


or perhaps this:


This would be quilted Koa

and this curly:


I agree that figuring is highly subjective (curly/flamed/quilted/etc.), I'm sure you remember the "driftwood" tops from earlier times?
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

The top is definitely maple, just not the standard flamed maple we're used to seeing. It definitely isn't koa. Koa is a pretty dark wood, so you wouldn't get that very light natural edge binding if it were koa. Regardless, great score!
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

a real beauty ! Congratulations !
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It definitely isn't koa. Koa is a pretty dark wood, so you wouldn't get that very light natural edge binding if it were koa.
If (and that's a big if) it's Koa the top is probably a 1mm veneer, with a 4m binding. The binding would not be Koa.
Check this for some examples of Ibanez Koa tops, some light some dark, some mixed:
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showpo...66&postcount=3

any RG212KKB on Rich's site:
http://www.ibanezrules.com/used/used_sold_prestige.htm
for example this:

or this:


now if it were maple, it would be the absolute worst flame top ever....so that can't be right, unless it is part of the "driftwoods".
The RG3120F came in several colours in 2001, but this one doesn't appear to be one of those either. The vertical dark patterns, non-straight are very un-maple like. It is indeed an enigma. It needs a DNA test.
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

Stunning! Very nice score.
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

Wow, that is an incredibly nice guitar. I'd love something like that.
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

Megadrive in the neck is moronic, but that guitar is beautiful. Congrats!
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Re: NGD '01 RG3120 Prestige with Koa top

I really like the top on that, it's got it's own mojo going on and doesn't look like every other flame top out there.

By the way, congratulations

Rock on!
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Megadrive in the neck is moronic, but that guitar is beautiful. Congrats!
I couldn't agree more (re: megadrive), and thank you!
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