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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-27-2015, 11:56 AM Thread Starter
 
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NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

Got this one $270 shipped. I do have some questions though, and I did some research on the guitar itself and history. First I don't see a RR250 advertised/listed in the 1985 Catalog, If I'm reading the serial number on the back plate right it is a 1985 model, Second I don't see a RR250 w/an Edge trem, and from looking at the pics I can't tell if it's been modified to fit one. Doesn't look like it to me?!?

As far as the history goes I looked up the name Luigi Cilento (written in the pup cavity) and saw he belonged/belongs to a local New York band called Life in Ruins. If you look at the hardshell case there logo is plastered all over the side, and there is a MySpace sticker by the handle. I went and checked out his and the bands page, and I saw this same guitar in a couple pics which leads me to believe it was his. Now all of this is speculation, but hardly a coincidence.

Honestly I care more about the origins of the guitar itself....did it come from the factory w/the Edge trem? can't wait to get it in the mail and pull the neck off and do some more digging. I'll post some pics when I get it. In the meantime all I have is the link!

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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

I confirmed it is a RR250 with the neck stamps. Guitar has been modded to fit an Edge trem though not very well. Besides the hideous paint job to the outside of the case it s very clean on the inside! Debating if I want to leave it modded or return to original?!? Either way it will be a fun project.











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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

Does anyone know what the "A" on the neck stamps represents?
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

I don't know about the A... Sure is a cool project though! Looks like the trem covers all the chisel work... though I guess if you were going to paint the guitar and fix it up you could sand/paint the inside of the trem cavity black. Would be a good player as is too... Kind of cool that you know the history!
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

Cool, man. Don't see many of those around. The '85 serial neckplates are fairly common for 1986 spec model instruments, usually K-L (Nov-Dec) ones - early production for 1986 release. That's why it's not in the 1985 catalogue .

I'd keep the Edge, but clean things up a bit.
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Cool, man. Don't see many of those around. The '85 serial neckplates are fairly common for 1986 spec model instruments, usually K-L (Nov-Dec) ones - early production for 1986 release. That's why it's not in the 1985 catalogue .

I'd keep the Edge, but clean things up a bit.
That's what I was thinking too. Since it's not in the 85 Catalogue it must be early production for 86. The neckplate serial number starts "F85" which would put production in June of that same year.

Yeah I'm thinking I am going to keep the Edge, but have the route cleaned up, and fixed. Thinking of putting new stud anchors in since these ones are old and I'm not even sure they're Ibanez. I have an extra set of the super trem studs that are definitely going to replace the non-locking ones. Now what to do with the back of the neck?!?
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

An F plate...wonder if it's from another guitar.

Could leave neck stripped and oil it, like the 400 series RGs of that period.
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

Nice axe man!

The edge tremolo is way better than the original tremolo, I would def. leave it in. A paf pro in the neck and super distortion in the bridge and your good to go!
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

Cool find man! really looking forward to see when you put this Randy Rhoads... err i mean Rocket Road all together.
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Cool find man! really looking forward to see when you put this Randy Rhoads... err i mean Rocket Road all together.
You know what the RR and Randy Rhoads connection never hit me until you said that *lol*! Well we talked about it last night, and decided the rest of the paint on the back of the neck is coming off. Going to leave what's left on the front only. Keeping the edge, but might have the stud anchors pulled out and new ones put in w/the Ibanez super studs. The studs that are in there are a lot longer than the Ibanez ones. After that going to have the headstock and body cleaned and buffed to clean it up and then gold w/black border RR pin striping to match the logo on the headstock. Have absolutely no idea for pups yet, but this one isn't a rush job. Just something for fun.
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

The first Edge trems had long studs because the bridge was top mounted, so you might have to plug the holes and re-drill.
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The first Edge trems had long studs because the bridge was top mounted, so you might have to plug the holes and re-drill.
Did not know that. So the anchors and studs may be Ibanez after all!
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

Cool project scott. this should be fun for 'ya.

The anchor on the right (treble) looks like it might be Ibanez, but not the other one. Obviously, whoever did this work originally used two different studs and anchors. One is course thread and the other is fine thread.
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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

^^ Yes, I noticed this as well. Though, the right one appears to have been put in upside down because the top visible portion on the guitar has no fluting. So I reckon they're both Ibanez studs, as the posts certainly are and both fit.


The modern inserts are shorter and have a solid bottom (except Edge Pro period, iirc) because Ibanez started recessing the trems in 1987 and using locking posts, so the little set screws lock against metal and don't dig into the wood. I think Ryc posted a pic in another thread ages ago showing a comparison between the two types.

Anyway, I'm keen to see how this one turns out .

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Re: NGD: 1985 RR250 Project

Thx for the info guys. We talked about taking the case to have it re-covered since cleaning all of that gunk and permanent marker will be a nightmare! We're amazed how clean it is on the inside. Definitely going to have the anchors pulled and modern version w/super studs installed. We're not going to recess it to make it float just down only which I'm good with. My question is that going to be a problem with the shorter anchors/studs (talking setting the action)?
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