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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-25-2020, 12:04 AM Thread Starter
 
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NGD: ESP B8

I couldnít satisfactorily spec a custom 8 string for myself, and that is largely in part because of the Stef B8.

I may have said this before but Stefan Carpenter has had a lot of different signatures with ESP for over 20 years, and I always had my eye on them because to me, ESP is the premier luthiers in the world. Of course, that is a personal opinion, and it bears no weight whatsoever on anything past my own taste and purchase.

Since the B7, the 7 string neck through with EMG 707, came out back in like 2000 or so? If someone has more historical knowledge on Stefís models, please chime in, but I can remember for ALMOST 20 years, definitely at least 15, I have been eyeing and eyeing the ESP signature page.

Something else I may have said is Iím not a Deftones listener. I have now started to like them, but I wasn't familiar with their work before getting this guitar, so at least I also learned about an awesome band as well. However, I am an SSO listener; so I read and read and after so many threads, the Fishman Fluence thread sealed the deal for me in terms of a quest.


I was really wary of the set, but I got a brand new 7 string and installed it into my Ibanez. It sounds amazing. Like, until I got this 8 string CS, my favorite pickups on earth were the Fluence SRC set. Now I love all kinds of pickups: Dimarzio Tone Zone/Air Norton or Piaf Pro, Lundgren M7/m8, EMG 81/85, LAce Deathbucker/humbucker, Dimarzio Blaze, SD SH4/JB , to give you an idea.

For me, the Modern Fluence set sounded amazing, but the SRC set is more scooped like the 81 profile, so I was very very happy with the bright scooped clarity of the pickup....so I then really started to have GAS for the 2016 updated B8 as they replaced EMGs with Fluence

For the life of me, As i said, I could not come up with anything to spec a custom for myself that I didnt already see in the B8. Actually, what made it slightly difficult to decide was the price, because the B8 street price is $4k usually. In any case, I noticed Nick @ the Axe Palace had the B8 (2016 version) in stock, and I contacted him. I got it the next day.

I couldnít spec a better guitar, mock up a better design, or out create the wonderful creation and development that has become the 2016 revised B8. While it is not a personally designed custom shop, it feels like every bit as one to me, and I woundít change a THING about it, and I really mean that in all truth, otherwise I probably couldíve waited for another axe....

For all those whoíve wondered as I did - the Middle Hum sounds just like a lead pickup, but barely, barely noticeably different from the neck, in fact, i would say theres no difference except that it allows/encourages you to pick past the pickup, like the bridge - which adds a little attack obviously but nothing to sully a clean lead, and I think these are the best pickups Ive ever heard, to me.

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CONSTRUCTION
Neck-Thru
SCALE
27" Baritone
BODY
Alder
NECK
3Pc Maple
FINGERBOARD
Ebony
FINGERBOARD RADIUS
305mm
FINISH
BLACK
NUT WIDTH
55mm
NUT TYPE
Graphite
NECK CONTOUR
Thin U
FRETS/TYPE
24 XJ
HARDWARE COLOR
Black
STRAP BUTTON
Standard
TUNERS
Sperzel Locking
BRIDGE
Hipshot Fixed
MIDDLE PU
Fishman Fluence SRC Signature
BRIDGE PU
Fishman Fluence SRC Signature
ELECTRONICS
Active
ELECTRONICS LAYOUT
Vol(P/P)/Tone/3-Way Switch


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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-17-2020, 01:15 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: NGD: ESP B8 (incoming)

I have to say, itís by far, the best 8 string Iíve ever played, seen, or had a chance to try. I would put the ESP Custom shop up there with the Ibanez custom Fujiyen/Gakki/Sugi and all the LACS perfection.

It is just incredible, absolutely unique and out of control quality. I canít believe the lines, the woods are perfect, its an incredible amazing axe. Very unique, as if it was a custom shop I specíd but you already have read about that.

Just updated/edited the incoming the getting it - itís really now my favorite guitar
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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-17-2020, 03:02 PM
 
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Re: NGD: ESP B8 (incoming)

Looks great. What amp you use with it?
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-17-2020, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
 
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Looks great. What amp you use with it?
Thanks dude

I use a FAS Axe Fx 3 with an Atomic CLR Neo cab

What do you play your ERG and what ERG do you have?
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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-19-2020, 09:29 AM
 
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Re: NGD: ESP B8 (incoming)

Call me old fashioned, but I want guitar to sound as guitar.

So no 8 strings.
Especially no fanned frets ERG.
If I want to play bass a will play bass.
When I need low sounding guitar, I usually take friend's all maple Guild with EMGs, and tune it 5 steps down with 7 strings set minus first.
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Call me old fashioned, but I want guitar to sound as guitar.

So no 8 strings.
Especially no fanned frets ERG.
If I want to play bass a will play bass.
When I need low sounding guitar, I usually take friend's all maple Guild with EMGs, and tune it 5 steps down with 7 strings set minus first.
Wanting an 8 string to sound like a guitar is why I had to end up buying a custom shop ESP - best custom in the world; I Was lucky there was an artist who spec’d one out, had it made in Tokyo CS in late 2017 and finished it late 2018, and it remained untouched and unmoved , and then axe palace , a special esp authorized shop, sold it In the US a year and a half after that......(to me)

It sounds and plays like a guitar , but I’m a universal player - meaning I can play any type of guitar without a problem but electrics are my forte and instrument of choice - but also meaning that I have almost always played 7 strings, more than any other

But lately , I needed and wanted brand new guitar and what do you get the guitarist who had every guitar he wanted ? A custom shop!

Since I was into a custom shop I had two issues (1) is the place not just legit, is it perfect luthiers ; and (2) could they do what I wanted : make an 8 string that feels and looks and sound like a guitar * So my only two choices now are ESP and one small boutique shop which I didn’t want to pay that much, and it was a problem with time and importing it so I said ESP it is

So I then said fanned fret (silly) or straight and if there was a neck that could feel like a guitar neck and not a bass it’s ESP, so finally it was spec time

After spec’ing the guitar I saw the B8 was almost the same thing I made but much better with a unique middle lead pickup position , so when it went on sale at the Axe palace , a month ago. I called nick up and he made me a deal I couldn’t refuse.

Nick (owner and sales ) and Victor(tech) are great employees and I couldn’t be happier with my 8 string guitar . It’s very much a custom shop in every way , like the binding, the fret work, the wood line, the feel and balanced proportion, the thin and well formed and expressed neck, the access to the upper frets, and one thing I love is the 27” string and fret spacing is slightly more desirable , especially for upper upper fret playing

All in all, I still think the best production electrics are/(were Ibanez 1985-2016), so about a 30 year run being the best shred and metal guitars in the world , but ESP has slowly and steadily moved into #1 as the world of guitar making (and big company luthiers, country of manufacturing and quality control ) has changed so drastically over the past decade but even more exponentially the past 5 years and ESP has improved Korean brand where as Ibanez has really started to drop the ball and it falls through the cracks with cheaper Indonesian But I digress

This is the best guitar I ever played besides the Ibanez guitars i own (5 in all)


***and not what I call what you’re referring to an ERI (extended range instrument , some call them ERGs but they are also Extended range basses)
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Re: NGD: ESP B8 (incoming)

ESP is making some of best guitars there are. And their custom shop is crazy good. And way too crazy too.
So I have no doubt that your custom is great. How heavy is it?


ESP guitar that I am gassing is Ohmura Pink custom shop 6 string Snapper. It is not far away from Pink PIA by the way.
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-23-2020, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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ESP is making some of best guitars there are. And their custom shop is crazy good. And way too crazy too.
So I have no doubt that your custom is great. How heavy is it?


ESP guitar that I am gassing is Ohmura Pink custom shop 6 string Snapper. It is not far away from Pink PIA by the way.
Hmmm, it’s not exact because i stepped on a scale, then on with the guitar but approximately 6 lbs? Maybe if that much???? I cant say, definitively, so for the benefit of the doubt lets just call it around 5-6?

Its weightier mostly, and most of all, because of the fishman fluence set, that I know from my other guitars

It’s truly a work of art man


Can you show me your ESP ? Do you have a specific one youre looking at, like from a dealer site, or you just like the mode? Pink PIA is really my avorite one

I hope you like whatever you get, is it already paid and on order, or you have yet to place?

PS one thing I love about my RG2228 is its so light, its like a 7 string basically.
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