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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-24-2011, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
 
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NGD: RG470AH BBL...

...HOLY C*&P! What a POS this thing is! The guitar came to me new in a sealed box, so this is how it left the factory. I wasn't expecting a MIJ killer, but I wasn't expecting such a piece of junk either. Also, I'm not a newbie at this stuff. I have been playing over 25 years, and have always had Floyd guitars, so I know how to deal with this stuff. Anyway the good about the guitar...

The body is a really nice hefty feeling two piece center seem Ash. That's about all I can say good about the guitar...

Now for the bad...

The first thing I noticed before even playing the thing, is that who ever was in the mixing booth that day mixed the trans blue as trans purple instead! It looks very nice, but when you are expecting blue, plus the fact that purple is not my color...

Factory setup=horrible. Super high action. Par for the course I suppose

Fret ends=sharp.

Frets not seated completely causing buzzing and fret outs around half the neck. (this explains why the factory set the action so high!)

Lock nut won't stay put! It creaks and moves a little bit every-time you use the trem! When I tightened the mounting screws as tight as I could, the problem still existed! Of all my years I have never had this happen to me before!

NOTE: for those that say the Edge III won't stay in tune, I would look to a moving lock nut as the culprit.

Pickups : They suck! I didn't expect anything necessarily spectacular, but these are truly the WORST sounding pickups I have ever used.

Edge III : Not bad, but that damn thin bar feels cheesy. Also, the grub screw that takes the wiggle out of the bar only lasts about 10 min. before I have to tighten it again so there is no play in the bar.

Needless to say my first (and only?) foray into non MIJ Ibanez has been a major disappointment. I can't believe Ibanez would put their name on this thing. IMO Ibanez are selling cheap junk copies with their name on it. This thing is so far removed from my old RG550 (wish I still had this one!), my RG2570Z, and my 2622 its embarrassing.
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-24-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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Re: NGD: RG470AH BBL...

wow, I have a rg 321 and love it. Also, your 470 is MII not MIJ. it is not hand made like the Japanese guitars are.
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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-24-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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Re: NGD: RG470AH BBL...

Not nearly as bad as any low-end Dean, or at least I hope

seriously, those necks feel like a thin layer of plywood wrapped around cork.
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Re: NGD: RG470AH BBL...

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...HOLY C*&P! What a POS this thing is! The guitar came to me new in a sealed box, so this is how it left the factory. I wasn't expecting a MIJ killer, but I wasn't expecting such a piece of junk either. Also, I'm not a newbie at this stuff. I have been playing over 25 years, and have always had Floyd guitars, so I know how to deal with this stuff. Anyway the good about the guitar...

The body is a really nice hefty feeling two piece center seem Ash. That's about all I can say good about the guitar...

Now for the bad...

The first thing I noticed before even playing the thing, is that who ever was in the mixing booth that day mixed the trans blue as trans purple instead! It looks very nice, but when you are expecting blue, plus the fact that purple is not my color...

Factory setup=horrible. Super high action. Par for the course I suppose

Fret ends=sharp.

Frets not seated completely causing buzzing and fret outs around half the neck. (this explains why the factory set the action so high!)

Lock nut won't stay put! It creaks and moves a little bit every-time you use the trem! When I tightened the mounting screws as tight as I could, the problem still existed! Of all my years I have never had this happen to me before!

NOTE: for those that say the Edge III won't stay in tune, I would look to a moving lock nut as the culprit.

Pickups : They suck! I didn't expect anything necessarily spectacular, but these are truly the WORST sounding pickups I have ever used.

Edge III : Not bad, but that damn thin bar feels cheesy. Also, the grub screw that takes the wiggle out of the bar only lasts about 10 min. before I have to tighten it again so there is no play in the bar.

Needless to say my first (and only?) foray into non MIJ Ibanez has been a major disappointment. I can't believe Ibanez would put their name on this thing. IMO Ibanez are selling cheap junk copies with their name on it. This thing is so far removed from my old RG550 (wish I still had this one!), my RG2570Z, and my 2622 its embarrassing.
Sadly, I think the only thing that can be done is to replace the trem system with an OFR. Then spend a bunch of time seating and dressing the frets. It's either that or send it back and hope for a better example. You shouldn't have to do all this with a new guitar, but it is what it is......
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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-25-2011, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: NGD: RG470AH BBL...

OK, now that I have settled down, it is not as bad as I made it out to be. The Edge III is what it is. There are at least one or two frets that need to be seated more. Other than that the guitar is what it should be. It is still not up to my standards, but I really like the body. I am thinking of selling the guitar minus the body and a few hardware bits. Any one have any advice on what pricing should be?
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post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-25-2011, 05:10 PM
 
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Re: NGD: RG470AH BBL...

Must have got a dud. Most of the MII guitars I've played lately have been nicely built, a lot better than the origin of manufacturing would suggest.
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-03-2011, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: NGD: RG470AH BBL...

UPDATE...all of my issues with the 470 have been cured! The 470 has been replaced with a 770 reissue...ahhh...much better! LOL!
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