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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-29-2015, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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NGD Road Flare Red rg7. May have cracked the paint code mystery!

Everything you need to know is right here in this video! The entire build story, the custom neck by Eric Bauer, and the secrets of what i believe Ibanez used on all those classic neon colors (like road flare red, Loch Ness green, shocking pink, etc), the whole nine yards. This guitar is a dream come true to me. Turned out incredible!!!

My Road Flare Red Ibanez RG7620 / RG550 hybrid - paint secrets and specs - YouTube
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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-29-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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Wow, thats awesome. At work so I couldn't hear it but it looks great!!!!!
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This is so cool. Great work on working out the colour.
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Im drooling man...By the way you just commented on my Blue 550 on guitar porn...so thanks for that.

But man that is a dead on RG7550RFR wow. Thanks for the heads up in the vid on the colors, I will contacting dayglo fo sho.
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This is great. Now i can repaint my rg560 carotene orange. Thank you very much.
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Freaking awesome. Period.

Regarding the color, for what it's worth i have that color sample from dayglo and held it up to some original paint guitars from that era. I have magenta, desert yellow and road flare red, and they all match the dayglo color sample sheet. so i think you are correct with your assessment regarding dayglo! I don't own a SK, LNG, CO or FA, but i suspect those will match the others on the palette just as well.

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Awesome video - thanks for the info on the colors
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Did you try to buy Ken's or has he already got rid of it?

My one dislike (besides no square heel),.....the red showing around the 5 way! I would pull off pick guard and satin black that tiny area.

Cool job though..\m/
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Very cool guitar! I should order a paint chip sheet from them and hold it up to my LNG and SK Jems. Paul, you should take a picture of the color chart next to the 540P I just sold you. I'd like to see how well DY lines up.

About the RFR, not sure if it's the video but the color seems just a tiny bit off. Too dark or something? I went to the Day Glo website and messed around with their "Design Center". You can see all the straight colors but then you can also add different tints to them. Neon Red is really pink but if you add a yellow tint to it, it seems dead on to RFR to me. It's a bit more orangey than Rocket Red. Be interesting to see them in person. I think by tint they might mean colored base coats?

Rocket Red



Neon Red + Yellow


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That.
Guitar.
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Very cool guitar! I should order a paint chip sheet from them and hold it up to my LNG and SK Jems. Paul, you should take a picture of the color chart next to the 540P I just sold you. I'd like to see how well DY lines up.

About the RFR, not sure if it's the video but the color seems just a tiny bit off. Too dark or something? I went to the Day Glo website and messed around with their "Design Center". You can see all the straight colors but then you can also add different tints to them. Neon Red is really pink but if you add a yellow tint to it, it seems dead on to RFR to me. It's a bit more orangey than Rocket Red. Be interesting to see them in person. I think by tint they might mean colored base coats?

Rocket Red
Jesse, my brother has a 20th anniversary RFR and I have an '87 and the color on the new one is slightly darker/more orangey than the original IMO (which seems to be more on the pink side). I don't know if it's just fading or if they changed the formula a little over the years but it's slightly different. I think the dayglo is closer to the 20th than my '87 which would make sense if that's what they're using. Same goes for the DY...i have a 20th DY rg550 and it seems to have more of a green tint to it compared to my '87 rg550 which again may be faded somewhat but also seems to have a little less of a green tint to it. Your 540p would be a good test too because that is an original that is not faded. Nevertheless, i will try to get some pictures of the color strip next to a few different guitars (originals, 20th anniversaries, DY 540p which is not faded, etc, etc). I think the dayglo is the real deal or at least as close as your going to get.

Also my brother is doing a custom pii (one of the Nate Pearl bodies) in dayglo RFR. It's done, just needs to be wetsanded and buffed but i don't have access to it yet to take a picture. When he brings it my way i can get a shot of that too next to the others as that will be an even more accurate comparison than a color strip as it will have clear coat etc as opposed to a piece of paper.
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When I get a chance I will put up a pic of an original DY versus the reissue versus the genesis. The colors on all 3 are slightly different. With the originals I can reason that to fading. With the genesis and reissue the headstocks appear to be slightly different. Maybe this is because of slightly different paint batches.

The most neon yellow guitar that I have is a warmoth neon. It is definitely brighter and more lemon yellow than the Ibanez's.

I would love to get an original Road flare red - the ones that have come up used are usually not worth the price asked.
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When I get a chance I will put up a pic of an original DY versus the reissue versus the genesis. The colors on all 3 are slightly different. With the originals I can reason that to fading. With the genesis and reissue the headstocks appear to be slightly different. Maybe this is because of slightly different paint batches.

The most neon yellow guitar that I have is a warmoth neon. It is definitely brighter and more lemon yellow than the Ibanez's.

I would love to get an original Road flare red - the ones that have come up used are usually not worth the price asked.
That would be great. Maybe you can post your pictures along with mine. My '87 RFR is NEAR MINT and i don't think it has faded much if at all so it will be a good example to use. I will take some pictures shortly and post them.

BTW -- I have the open can of Dayglo RR my brother used on his guitar. It looks different than the paper color sample. I'll post pictures of everything i have....the paper sample, the color from the can, original RFR, 20th anniversay, etc. At some point having his finished guitar will be added to the pictures but i don't have access to that yet.

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Re: NGD Road Flare Red rg7. May have cracked the paint code mystery!

Here are some pictures, on the left is the RG 20th anniversay and on the right is an original '87 RFR RG550









Desert Sun Yellow --






MY KIDS TOY THAT HAPPENED TO BE RIGHT ON THE TABLE NEXT TO ME WHEN I WAS TAKING THE PICTURES MAY MATCH BETTER THAN THE DAYGLO .... HAHAHA


Magenta.....



I also took some shots of the RFR against the color strip but didn't include them here...see link below for more pictures. Honestly the color strip looks a bit different than the actual paint when applied and dried (at least that's the case for the rocket red, i don't have the others). For the RFR --- looking at the overflow on the paint can it actually matches the original more than the anniversary. However I've seen my brother's guitar finished and I think it looks more like the anniversary when all said and done. I think the number of coats probably has something to do with it. As for the DY -- the color strip actually looks pretty dead on with 20th anniversary. The original DY doesn't has less of a green overtone to it. The magenta is a little off from teh strip, but again the strip is misleading i think. i bet if we had the paint it would be spot on just like the rocket red looks a little different when applied compared to the paper color sample.

All in all, i think this is the stuff. Between fading, yellowing over time, variability in terms of number of coats, perhaps the shade of white they used underneath, etc, etc...all things that that move the needle a little bit. But at the end of the day if you want these colors I agree with Ben and hats off to him for cracking the code.


Now I need to get my hands on a Five Alarm red guitar and see if matches Fire Orange. I suspect it will. Also wondering which is SK --- Aurora Pink or Neon Red, they are both very close. Same goes for Blaze Orange and Arc Yellow...wondering which one is Carotene Orange. I saw a CO guitar once and it was really bright and light orange so i'm thinking Arc Yellow.


Anyway, i took several other pictures but didn't want to spam the thread with too many. There are more pictures here if you're interested.
http://s263.photobucket.com/user/pws...Guitars/Dayglo
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Wow, those are great pics! Especially interesting to see the two RFR's next to eachother. The reissues are definitely much more orange, which is the color I had in my head.

DY reissues are known for being greenish, but it's really crazy seeing them compared to the strips. Like you say, the RE is pretty much dead on to the strip and the 540P looks also taxi can yellow by comparison. That's nuts to me because I know what that guitar looks like in person. That guitar and an '87 540S I had were the two most vibrant DY guitars I'd ever seen.

Everyone has always complained that the reissue DY's were way too green but it's possible that none of these people had ever seen a non-yellowed DY. If you ever see an old white Ibanez, the yellowing of the clear is really obvious. I think that even best case, the old clear always had some kind of tint to it. My old '91 DY Jem had a chip where you could see paint both with clear and without.



Ibanez significantly improved their clears several years ago and the new ones most likely have no tint to them.
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