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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-10-2010, 03:16 PM Thread Starter
 
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NGD - RT150 Project

UK Evilbay coughed up a Korean RT150 :



First thought had been to stick my spare Fred in the bridge position and not to bother with anything else.

But that would be dull, no?

I've been a Maiden fan since before I started playing guitar over 20 years ago, and the first time I saw them live was on the tour for No Prayer For The Dying. Janick Gers, in only his 10th gig with the band, was already climbing up the PA stacks, jumping around like a madman and generally making my guitar idol of the time, Dave Murray, look like he was glued to the spot.

Fast forward 20 years and we have a black (pointy) Strat to play with. Someone in last month's UK Guitarist magazine did something very similar with a Fender Road Worn Strat but I'm going with the Ibanez route for something a little different.







Next Step : Fetch Me My Tools...
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-10-2010, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

OK, so it's time to see what we're dealing with here :



Old school neck joint FTMFW



Mmm, vintage stylee. Don't like that string tree, though.



Humbuckers are going but I was planning on keeping the single coil. Only thing is...



That can't be good. Not to worry, there's a spare INFS knocking about here somewhere that will do the trick.



It's either had a new switch or, for some odd reason, new screws.

OK, let's break out the tools and see what's under the bonnet...

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Excellent, nice big bathtub rout so I won't need to do any messing around with chisels.



That'll explain why that screw wouldn't bite, then...

I did find one thing that was definitely a problem :



Looks like it's ready to crumble into dust at any minute. It certainly can't be helping the tone. We'll be needing a replacement, then.

So the shopping list will be :

- Duncan JB-JR pickups for the neck and bridge
- New 5-way switch
- DPDT toggle switch for coiltap (I want the option of fully single-coil operation. Split-5 is groovy but I fancy something a bit different)
- New pots
- New scratchplate
- New output jack (this one's dodgy)
- New bridge

And if I'm feeling very generous :

- New roller string tree
- New roller nut (or at least a new nut - this one's a smidge cracked in two places)
- New (locking) tuners

More than I had intended to do but this guitar was a £120 cheeky punt so I'm happy to put some money into it to get it singing.

This might also be the guitar to have a go at with the sander for some subtle relic touches.

To be continued...

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post #4 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-10-2010, 04:39 PM
 
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

Should be pretty sweet when everything's all said and done. Congrats.
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

looking forward to seeing the finished product
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post #6 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-10-2010, 06:22 PM
 
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Looks great, can't wait until you're done!!
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post #7 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-11-2010, 03:33 AM
 
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

I didn't know some RT150 were MIK
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

I was looking for a SSS RG pickguard myself. Good luck finding one...I gave up because I thought that it was rediculous to fork over 80 bucks to make when the exact same thing can be had for less than 20 new, only with slightly larger holes.
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post #9 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-12-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

Mmmmmmm interesting!

RT150 MIK too. Great little project BTW. I'm just completed one on an RT250 MIK.

No one has been able to throw any light on why/ how these MIK models came about.

What's the body thickness?

My RT250 body is about 8mm thicker than the RT450 and RT240 bodies. The neck is a tad fatter too. Still feels nice, just different.

The body and neck have no markings for clues. The RT250 MIK still has the TZ100 trem as on the MIJ but the pickups are definately not VS6's, 7's or 8's. The pots are not stock MIJ either! They've gone lol....

I've replaced the crap pickups with Breeds/SVC combo and the Trem with a VS100 Wilkinson. It slotted in almost perfectly. I just had to route the lip 3mm for the trem to rise.

Sounds and plays very well. Not quite up there with the MIJ's I have but just a bit differently.

Keep up the good work
All the best

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post #10 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-12-2010, 03:15 PM Thread Starter
 
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What's the body thickness?
It's about 47mm - definitely on the chunky side.

Duncans are here. New trem, switch, pots, etc are on the way. Need to get the new scratchplate drawn up and made. Things are moving forwards.
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post #11 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-13-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

weird, my rt150 was MIJ.

so is my rt650!

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post #12 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-13-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

It really is weird!!! I love to find out about these rogue models.

Rich can you measure your RT's width?

Even the serial is a non-ibanez format on the neckplate with nothing on the neck!
What factory did they come from? Cort had C.......it's all very intriguing.

Was it just the RT150's and RT250's that had MIK versions.

....and how many RT250's MIJ's did they make considering it was identical to the RT450's just with different pickups.
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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

The RT250 is the European equivalent to the US RT450. Why yours was made in Korea, I couldn't say.
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The RT250 is the European equivalent to the US RT450. Why yours was made in Korea, I couldn't say.
It is - ish... ;-)

I have two RT450's from and available in Europe. They had a VS7 and VS8.

The RT250's had VS6's x 2 and yes only imported to europe. The MIK is a totally different spec'd guita that appears in no Ibanez catalogue!!!

Yep I'm an Ibanez anorak!!! Got 25 of the buggers!!

I also have two RT240's the SSH which seem to be Europe only too.... but as mentioned elsewhere one of my RT450 came stamped with an RT240 neck whilst one of my RT450's came stamped with a RT240 neck.

I'm sooooooo intrigued by these guitars now owning 5 !!! I do need the RT452 tho LOL

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Re: NGD - RT150 Project

As far as I've always understood, the RT450 wasn't available in Europe as it's not in any EU price list or catalog. The ones you have were most likely imported by private sellers, because they weren't available retail. If you bought them new in Europe, I'd be very interested!

Regarding the necks, Ibanez has always been a little screwy about neck stamps. Most RG560/570 necks are stamped RG550R, so I'd guess that the necks are exactly the same on the 240/250/450.

It's very interesting that you have an MIK version, though. Perhaps production was moved when they decided to halt production? It's more and more difficult to piece these mysteries together as time passes.

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