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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-20-2019, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

I know a lot of folks swear by this and I have done it in other guitars. I put a big brass block from FU Tone on my Ibanez Edge but I don't know if I love it. A couple things I've noticed.

While the tone may be deeper (honestly I didn't A/B so I don't know) I feel I lost some harmonics and brightness. While I know pinch harmonics are a matter of technique (I'm sure mine isn't that good), I felt they were easier to pull off with the stock block.

The trem feels clunkier now. I know the brass block adds mass so I anticipated it to be heavier. But I felt the stock block was light, easy to move and very smooth. I don't feel that way with the big brass block now.

I kind of feel like the trem isn't as balanced and goes out of tune a bit more, even when locked.

Has anyone done this upgrade and not liked it and switched back? Or did you go with another type of upgrade/material and liked it better?

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-22-2019, 03:43 AM
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

I'm exactly the same! It was on an OFR equipped guitar and I wholeheartedly prefer the standard block. To me the brass seems to favour the fundamental tone or something, which is the opposite of that i expected! I've kept it on that guitar for a different tone, but I wouldn't describe it as my favourite by any means.
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

It's not that well known (since it isn't listed in the specs) but the standard block on an OFR is actually brass coated in chrome, I think the actual size/mass increase is what is causing such a big difference and a smaller brass block might be a better happy medium. I was thinking about upgrading the block on my Jem 777 since it doesn't have the same percussiveness as my 7V and the harmonics don't jump out as much, it just has less poke in the mids. I don't know if that is down to the Basswood body vs Alder but the 777 has a very different sound and really through my Cornford it sounds like pure ass (because that amp responds better to brighter guitars with a lot of dynamic range, the opposite of the 777), great through my Helix though and decent with the 5150.

It's difficult to really get to the bottom of tweaking a guitars unplugged sound/nature, different guitars need different remedies and sometimes there is only so much you can do. My 777 is pretty much perfect in terms of playing ease and stability, but I have a love/hate relationship with the sound, especially as it sounds so dead through my favourite amp. I've thought about changing the block for a Titanium one as that is known to increase brightness, certainly when you swap from brass to titanium saddles on other guitars (such as the Tele).
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-22-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

https://www.hantug.com/index.php?rou...tegory&path=67

These are my favourite ones. I worked with them to design the Edge ones, so they are a similar shape, and retain the spring retainer too. No too big, but you get the benifits of the metal. I've used both brass and titanium. Titanium is my favourite.
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

i've tried it in a few different guitars...i didn't particularly like it so i went back to stock on all of mine...but thats only my personal opinion...everyone should try one i think and decide for themselves...d.m.
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

I have it in most of my guitars, but there was one that made the guitar too bright, and I took it out. It's not a silver bullet, it either works great, or not. It's completely up to your ears.
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These are my favourite ones. I worked with them to design the Edge ones, so they are a similar shape, and retain the spring retainer too. No too big, but you get the benifits of the metal. I've used both brass and titanium. Titanium is my favourite.
$275 for the Titanium block is incredibly expensive, what are the tonal differences compared to a stock block, and then compared to a Brass block?
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$275 for the Titanium block is incredibly expensive, what are the tonal differences compared to a stock block, and then compared to a Brass block?
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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-07-2020, 03:39 AM
 
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

Steve Vai uses a stock skinny block I think ? Good enough for me!
I have Callaham blocks in my Strats. My RG550 is my Supercar !
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

I've got a bunch of guitars with the Big Brass block on them. I love them but they are all on none floating trems (Van Halen type guitars). I've never tried one on a floater. I always thought they were designed for the non floaters...
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-27-2020, 03:10 AM
 
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Re: Not Sure If I Like My Big Brass Block

I've got a brass block coming from Killer Guitar Components for my S5570. It's the "normal" size so if goes from the edge size to a OFR size...at least I think that's right. I need just a bit more body in the mids and a hair more sustain. I really don't want to pull out the Steve's special because I feel like I'm REALLY close tonally...so I'm hopeful!
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