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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-21-2011, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Original Edge in a 3120F?

Options, options, options.....

As I am considering a trade for a 7 string on this I am also considering keeping this as its the best 6 string I own. I know, but who isnt finnicky....

My question is, how hard would it be to fit the original edge trem in my 3120F (currently has an edge pro)? I know the route doesnt match up. Do the saddles match the radius? If the route is altered (by a tech) does the flame top stand a chance of getting damaged? I do know Rich has these in stock.

So many questions but these are the questions that burn.....and also my pee but thats a different more regretful story......
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

I still think the Edge Pro is the best of the Ibby bridges. Even the 2 540 customs I made have EP's on them.
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I still think the Edge Pro is the best of the Ibby bridges. Even the 2 540 customs I made have EP's on them.
As in the 90's S540?

Would you mind telling me why?
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

I don't own any guitars with edge pros, nor will I (not that it's bad or anything, I just like all my lo-pros). I do know though, that with an edge pro, it sits lower in the cavity than if you were to slap an original edge trem on there. My Jem and 550 have original edges and they stick up quite a bit more than the other two. I don't think you'd gain anything by switching really.
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

Jack has custom-made 540s into which he chose to set EPs.

All preference, but the Edge is not per se better sounding or playing than the EP. Your hand that rests on the trem will decide.

The EP, although despised by the folks that grew up with the Edge, is probably the most progressive and functional double-locking trem out there: exchangeable knife edges, functional fine tuners, option to string without clipping off ball ends (good for gig emergencies), low profile that's comfortable to rest your hands on, plug-in trem arm, little rounded, string-saving sustain blocks...what's not to like.

You can slightly improve in your axe by adding locking studs, which Rich at Ibanezrules.com sells. But since most people don't even know how to lock any locking studs correctly they are at best a marginal improvement for many . As TMatt142 put it, you won't gain anything discernible besides look/feel.

I am not very picky, but I personally favor the EP and Lo-Pro over the Edge for the profile alone.
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

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I still think the Edge Pro is the best of the Ibby bridges. Even the 2 540 customs I made have EP's on them.
Did you have the bodies custom made? If so, where did you get them?
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

To actually answer your question and not argue the merits of the EP, No the top of your guitar should not be affected. The major problem area when fitting an Edge/Lo-Pro into the EP route is the trem block area (the block your springs mount into). This is definitely the only problem area in my RG1527.......I'll be routing it to fit a Lo-Pro7.
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

The only issues putting a LP in is the rounded front corners of the rout of either side of the studs. This has to be routed back to look like a Lo Pro rout, if done carefully it will not damage the top.
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

You can always grind back the outer tines on the bridge so you don't have to rout the top.
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

I don't have any contact at the corners. Is this something that can vary by model??
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I've never seen a Lo Pro or Edge that would make it to the studs because of those rounded corners, which is also why only an EP will retrofit an ED3.
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You can always grind back the outer tines on the bridge so you don't have to rout the top.
I did not think of that....thats actually brilliant. I would much rather damage the bridge in a worst case scenario than the top of my guitar......

Only issue is half of the comments about the EP makes me reconsider. I have had this discussion with RGT and he brings up good points on the LP...

I guess it may come down to tonal properties..........
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

Recovering from my drunken state, I noticed I said Edge Pro was the best Ibby bridge. Obviously, I meant the Lo Pro is the best.
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Re: Original Edge in a 3120F?

The spacing between the body studs is different too.
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I did not think of that....thats actually brilliant. I would much rather damage the bridge in a worst case scenario than the top of my guitar......

Only issue is half of the comments about the EP makes me reconsider. I have had this discussion with RGT and he brings up good points on the LP...

I guess it may come down to tonal properties..........
Don't get me wrong...The EP is a very good trem, but ONLY if you upgrade to locking studs. That's the option I would choose if it were my guitar. I wouldnt take a router to yours OR grind the corners of a Lo-Pro unless you could find a CHEAP Lo-Pro for sale.........and I mean DIRT CHEAP......LOL.

I really like your guitar as it is (I always have), in fact if I had the $$ I'd buy it from you. Just add some locking studs and it will be every bit as good as an ED or LP. Just a little bit stiffer though, but I'm sure your used to that already.

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