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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-01-2004, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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Prestige vs. Wizard II

Is the Prestige models any easier to play than a standard RG with a Wizard II. I played a freinds RG 350 and I couldn't get used to it. Then I played a Jem and it seemed so much smoother. I'm thinking about a RG2550, good choice? I also have kind of short fingers, will the thinner neck be more comfortable?

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-02-2004, 11:35 AM
 
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i have a prestige RG3120 with a wizard; fanstastic player. also have a j- custom RG8527 with i believe an ultra. it's thicker than a wizard, but also a fantastic player.

my buddy has a rg470 with a wizard II and i didn't think it was comfortable either
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post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-02-2004, 02:18 PM
 
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i have a rg 1570 and it's neck is very comfortable.japanese guitars' necks have a smoother finish that is what makes them more comfortable,not thickness.i believe pgm and wizard 2 necks have the same specs , but the pgm neck is much better.
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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-04-2004, 08:54 AM
 
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i play RG2550 with super wizard neck (thinnest ibanez neck i believe). sometimes it does feel too thin especially when i pick it up right after playing my thicker neck yamaha RG420S.

barre chording on the wizard a bit painful. but you'll appreciate it when playing a fast solo. i think a wizard 2 or ultra may be better as an all round neck. and yes, i too have short fingers (average asian).
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post #5 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-18-2010, 11:26 AM
 
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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

for me PGM neck is the thinnest
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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-18-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

IMO, don't get a 2550 if you plan on making any modifications. Get the 1550 or 1570 instead, as the quality is the same but it is cheaper and will cost less overall if you want to upgrade the pickups.

I looked everywhere for a 1550 but couldn't find one. I bought a 2550 instead and it is awesome, but I'm changing the pickups as the stock ones don't really do it for me.

FWIW, the neck is fantastic. I love it and it suits me really well. Also, the 2550 neck is not the thinnest, that goes on the 3550 and 3570 series for the RG. (it's only 1mm thinner)
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post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-20-2010, 01:30 AM
 
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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

I think this depends on whether you're talking about an older Wizard II neck or a newer one because a couple of years ago the Wizard II & Jem necks were 56 mm wide at the last fret but now Ibanez has changed the specs on all of the new necks on the Jem, RG Prestige Wizard & RG Wizard II so they are all 58 mm wide at the last fret...the thickness hasn't changed but the change in the width in my opinion has made the newer necks less comfortable to play.

Unfortunately, all the new RGs & Jems on the Ibanez site have 58 mm wide necks, which I think totally sucks... they should be offering more than one width on Jems and RGs. Some people may like the new wider necks but I think the older 56 mm wide necks were much more comfortable. Most of my friends who also like Ibanez guitars are not fans of the new wider necks either.

I have a new Prestige neck on my RG 2550z (58mm width) and I also have a 2004 Jem and an older RG (both 56 mm wide) and I think the necks on my Jem and older RG are much nicer to play. If you have shorter fingers I think you may find the new wider necks less comfortable to play.

So, sorry for the long post but the point I'm driving home here is that you need to feel what width is more comfortable for you because the difference in width will likely be more noticeable for you than a 1 mm difference in thickness.

I'm interested in hearing what others think...
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post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-21-2010, 04:45 PM
 
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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

I have pretty small hands, and my Ibanez guitars (Jem7V, 77V , and a PGM300re) are all 2005 models or newer. I love these necks and the thickness is the biggest thing for me,,,as I have quite thick fingers and like a wide neck. In fact, playing my Jackson soloist seems "off" now as the neck is so fat compared to an Ibanez. So I like the wide but thin profile.

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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

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Is the Prestige models any easier to play than a standard RG with a Wizard II. I played a freinds RG 350 and I couldn't get used to it. Then I played a Jem and it seemed so much smoother. I'm thinking about a RG2550, good choice? I also have kind of short fingers, will the thinner neck be more comfortable?

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The key word here is 'play'. You can ask for opinions but no amount of them will ever answer your question like actually trying these things out for yourself.
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post #10 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-22-2010, 06:38 AM
 
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for me PGM neck is the thinnest
Unless it's a Wizard, or Super Wizard.
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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-22-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

All these necks are a bit different. The RG350 Wizard 2 is close to the Jem aside from the radius. I like it because it feels fuller when my fingers lock down on the frets. There's more meat on the bone, so to speak, but it's a tad more difficult to solo on at higher frets, I think.
The Super Wizards and Wizard 1 are the thinnest. Super-easy to play but you might find it too thin depending on your preference.
The Prestige Wizard seems to me to be the best of both worlds. Fuller but not too thick with a decent radius.
The Jem neck, IMO is a great neck. It's very similar to Wizard 2 with a more comfortable radius. The scalloped high-end frets are one if it's better features.
The decission will come down to your preference, of course. My personal favorite is Prestige Wizard overall but there are good qualities to all of them, IMO.
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post #12 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-25-2010, 06:59 AM
 
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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

It all comes down to preference, but almost all the MII Ibanez I have played IMO feel like they have trapezium or rectangle neck carves, I can feel the shoulders clearly, my Prestiges both have great D carves, I can't feel shoulders at all. I'd go prestige over wizard II any day, only exception is the Xiphos neck, which seems to be less boxy.
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post #13 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-25-2010, 08:48 AM
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Re: Prestige vs. Wizard II

I lean towards the older Wizard necks - and I believe those neck dimensions are part of the reason that models with those necks have been so popular over the years. JMTC.....
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I lean towards the older Wizard necks - and I believe those neck dimensions are part of the reason that models with those necks have been so popular over the years. JMTC.....
I totally agree - I wish Ibanez would go back to those neck dimensions - at least on some models - instead of pushing the same 58mm necks on all all of the MIJ Prestige RG and Jem guitars...
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