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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 03:32 AM Thread Starter
 
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Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

This is my second post and I still don't have an 8 and I still don't know what to choose

Yesterday, I went to my trusted guitar shop to get the Ibanez RGA8 I've ordered.
After, a general euphoria for a such new & strange intrument (yes, the 8strings are really unusual here) we went for a test of the guitar.

First of all, the guitar looks really really cool.

After a proper (and standard) tuning [F# B E etc.] we immediately notice that famous buzz I've read on several posts.

(The guitar looks well set from the factory and the action was good)
We gave the axe to the liuther of the shop.
He rapidly did his job but the fret buzz didn't quit.
This buzz concerned the F#, the B, the E and even if a little the A too! Almost all over the fretboard
So came the bad times.
I've told to the shopkeeper if we could send the instrument back.
(We'd could make a more deep setup but the buzz, IMO, was really too much to be solved with another setup)
So, after some heavy swearwords here and there, he accepted the idea.

I was almost about to order the Schecter Damien 8 (to make me forgive). That was my original first choice. At the last moment, I called him to switch to the Ibanez.
But I told him to give me some time to decide.
I went out the shop without my 8.


I wish this post will help somebody to make the right choice.
I don't know
Maybe that guitar was just one of the unlucky ones.


Now, the second part of the thread.
Please give me a word.

The point is, as written in the title:
Schecter Damien Elite 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual 828?
I came to this last choice after a long and deep evaluation of the matter.
I could order the Schecter from my shop but he told me that if even that one will buzz, he will not send it back.
(He came to the conclusion that every 8strings buzzes)
And this is my first question to everybody own an 8.

Does every 8strings buzzes on the low strings?

The second choice is to make a transoceanic order to the Agile.
The price will be charged a lot by the italian duty but I will spend not a lot more than the Schecter (something I can afford).
The intrepid pro is my fav. I deadly love that natural finish but the scale is 28.625 while the standard Intrepid comes with the choice of 28.625 or 30".
(Playing the 27" of the RGA, even if not downtuned, I feel the first two strings a little too loose and the sound is a little "farting" for my tastes)
The Damien is 26.5 but I love the look and I usually pretty like EMGs.

So, what should be the best choice for me?
(my fingers are not so long but I feel pretty well on the RGA neck)


Thanks to everybody for the help&Sorry 4 the long post and the poor english
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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 09:28 AM
 
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

"Does every 8strings buzzes on the low strings?"

NO!

Its all in setting up the guitar propperly!
This got nothing to do with the number of strings on your guitar.
Hell! you could even get a 10 string guitar,it doesn't matter as long as the setup is done propperly.

Take a good guitar luthier (technician) to check it out
and you'll be fine.
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post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

This is what I thought too.
I don't know about that liuther but that is one of the biggest instruments shop here and I think they have a serious guy working for them.
I wish so at least..
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

How much time did he put in your guitar?
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Well, not a lot, to say it all.
But that's his fault. I mean they had to sell me the guitar.
If he thought he'd have to spend more time to make this buzz disappear, he could take this time.
I thought that was the best he could bring out from the instrument.
Otherwise, he's an a**hole.
I mean "sell me that bloody guitar!"
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post #6 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 10:02 AM
 
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

You might want to check these guy's out.

Carlo Cecconi
Via Alpi Apuane 44 - 00141 Roma
Tel. 06-8170176

Mario Rosazza Ferraris
Via P.Cossa 3, Roma
Tel. 06-3230741
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post #7 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Hey thanks a lot, Death!!
But who are they? Shops, Liuthers, private sellers?
Do they have a website or something?
I mean, are these private phone numbers?
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post #8 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Yeah, there luthiers.
It looks like these are there private phone numbers.
I could not find there websites

I found this information on the web:

http://www.cybozone.com/fg/luthier.html

I think you should just pick up the phone and give it a try!

Good luck and keep me updated!
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post #9 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 11:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Yes, Death. Thanks again.
I've already looked for them and I've found they are classical instruments liuthers (reissues of ancient strings instruments etc)
[And they seem pretty expensive too]
But thx anyway, I got a liuther that build 8s, that I contacted, but I want an entry level price.
Otherwise, I'd finish to pay twice the price of a Schecter..
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post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-07-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Okay, i didnt know that.

Maybe your guitar luthier can go with you to the shop and check out the ibanez so he can see what has to be done. and see wat it will cost.
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Did the guitar noticeably buzz when plugged in and amplified, or just unplugged? Just curious here
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

To Death, the liuther lives in Milan and I'm In Roma (km 500 plus).

To Jim, the guitar sounds buzzing also plugged and distorted too.
The notes sound muted. I think this could be relieved by a long and deep setup but I don't think it's possible to take the buzz away entirely.
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

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Originally Posted by Death.by.G-string View Post
How much time did he put in your guitar?
about 800 USD or:
575 EUR

EDIT: sorry i thought you said how much is it. i read things too fast sometimes
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Yeah, that's a setup issue. It sounds like some relief (or bow) needs to be put in the neck, or the action raised slightly. Putting relief in the neck takes some time -- one often has to make the slight adjustment and then wait a few hours for it to truly take hold. A fast tweak in a shop while you're there probably won't be enough time.

It's also possible that you have a high fret. A good luthier will be able to cure that fairly easily.
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Re: Returned Ibanez RGA8! "That BUZZ"!! Schecter Damien 8 or Agile Intrepid Pro Dual?

Thx, Phil.
You're surely right.
I don't know. The liuther could and had to tell me it.
IT's his fault.
By the way, today I have ordered the Schecter Damien 8.
Wish me luck
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