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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-24-2012, 04:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Alright guys, I did quite a bit of research to help with this very annoying problem. I am having serious sustain issues on very specific notes, primarily on the G string at the 9th and 18th fret in standard tuning.

I say standard tuning because if I drop the string a half step the "dead notes" will shift up a fret making me believe it is a resonance issue with the guitar and neck.

My question is what can be done to fix this problem? Or at least lessen the problem? I've heard of people putting brass plates at the top of their headstock (particularly Fenders) called "fathead" plate. I'm frustrated as this is not what I would consider a cheap guitar yet this is the only guitar I've had this issue with.

Also, for more info and people that have dug into this phenomenon check out this link:

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/sho...=513421&page=2
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

If you paid attention to what Terry said then you already have the answers. You can try gadgets like Fat Fingers if you can't live with the issue.
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Rich you're correct... almost. He referred to them as fatheads as did others in the post, and the only reference made to them are brass plates applied to Fender headstocks which they're made for. Of course C clamps were also mentioned but that would look ridiculous and not ideal as I hang my guitars on the wall..

Let me be more specific. I'm looking for a fix for MY guitar, an Ibanez RG which has a tremolo and different shaped headstock. Anyone have success adding something to the trem cavity? Anyone know of any "fathead" that fit Ibanez headstocks?

Thanks.
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Thanks. You ever have any success using those? Ever find the need?
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Never found the need. Joe put an earlier version on Pearly to correct some issues and he seemed to like it.
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Maybe needs research but I think its possible to custom make a brass "part" screwed behind the headstock.

Someone in my country figured a way to move the dead spots away by using such brass. The weight/size of it depends where the dead spot is but I have no idea how he calculates it.

Probably easiest way is to take measures and make the brass part as big as possible, like triangle so the guitar can still fit the same hardcase or hang on wall. As far as I understand making oversized doesn't create new dead spots.

I never actually tried to find dead spots on my 3120 but blocking the trem did make a difference if its ok for you.
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

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Never found the need. Joe put an earlier version on Pearly to correct some issues and he seemed to like it.
Have you never encountered it on an Ibanez, or just not bad enough?
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

What benefit would be gained if the trem plate was replaced with a brass plate? Would it resolve the problem?

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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

If it were me, I'd just buy another 3120 and sell the one you have.
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Which trem do you have lo pro or edge pro? Have you tried a larger sustain block yet? You're fortunate in that there are readily available blocks whereas I have to custom fab one myself.
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

I can't just pick up another cause it's a lefty RG 3120 very limited, btw I'm looking for another if anyone has one or know of one for sale let me know! HA.

It has the lo pro edge, and I picked up a "fat finger" attached to headstock and voila, fixed all dead spots and improved overall sustain. Wouldn't have believed it if I didn't experience it but I figured $15 why not try it out. Glad I did! Thinking about picking one up for my SA series guitar as well.

Anyway, anyone with dead spots I suggest looking into these, there's a reason players use em, they work.
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Where'd you get it? What brand?
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

Cool how heavy is the fatfinger?
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Re: RG 3120 sustain issues, resonance problem?

I got the Fender brand off ebay. It can't weight more than a few ounces.
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