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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-23-2007, 05:03 PM Thread Starter
 
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which rg is this?

i shipped my guitar with fedex and it seems to be lost
they need me to file a cliam but i have to prove its original value in order to get any refund back.

can anyone tell me what year this guitar is?
im pretty sure its a rg570bk. i think its around 1992 or 1993, how do i find out for sure from these pictures?

does anyone know the original msrp, or where I can find it? does anyone have a catalog with pricing from this year?
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-23-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: which rg is this?

Find out only by looking at the serial number on the back of the headstock. It'll start with F, then you get the year. It's not a 1992, because the AANJ (neck joint) wasn't introduced on the RG's until 1993 or 1994. 94, I think.

It is without a doubt an RG570. Not sure of the colour, maybe Black Pearl. Definitely not just black, it has a sparkle to it. If Black Pearl, it could be a 1996 or 1997 model. If so, the list price was $819.

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Re: which rg is this?

i cant' get the serial number because its lost now. and i dont have any paper work with me that can prove what it is.

do you have a copy of the ad or catalog to prove the list price? I'm not saying i dont believe you, they need me to send them proof on the listing price. thanks a lot!
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Re: which rg is this?

Yes.

(1996 list) http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/.../1_Jan/p03.jpg

(1997 list) http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/.../2_Aug/p03.jpg

Actually, the 1996 list price was higher than the 1997 price, oddly enough! 1996 = $999. 1997 = $819.

I'm almost 100% certain the guitar is a 1996 or 1997 Black Pearl model.

Catalogs: http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/index.htm
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Re: which rg is this?

As far as I am concerned, it is a RG1570MR.

You obviously can't buy a 199X RG5XX new these days, so I would file a claim for something comparable - something currently in production.

Send them a copy of a MF catalog with the RG1570 in it.
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MR = Mirage Red? You're kidding? The 1570MRR has "Prestige" on the headstock, direct-mount pickups and an Edge Pro. This one is the swoosh headstock logo and Lo-Pro Edge or Original Edge (hard to tell the exact bridge from the pic). I'm telling you, it's an 90's RG570 in Black Pearl.
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MR = Mirage Red? You're kidding? The 1570MRR has "Prestige" on the headstock, direct-mount pickups and an Edge Pro. This one is the swoosh headstock logo and Lo-Pro Edge or Original Edge (hard to tell the exact bridge from the pic). I'm telling you, it's an 90's RG570 in Black Pearl.

+1 That's an RG570 for sure.
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MR = Mirage Red? You're kidding? The 1570MRR has "Prestige" on the headstock, direct-mount pickups and an Edge Pro. This one is the swoosh headstock logo and Lo-Pro Edge or Original Edge (hard to tell the exact bridge from the pic). I'm telling you, it's an 90's RG570 in Black Pearl.
Sniff...sniff...I guess I was the only one who could smell the sarcasm in my post. I guess the little didn't give it away. Sometimes emoticons are almost as uselss as brain cells at a Phish concert.

Don't insult my intelligence - I've been around a bit - and you and I both know it is an RG570, but some claims tool at FedEx wouldn't know a Strat from a Flying V. How do you place a value on an item no longer produced? Surely you can't rely on Fleabay pricing to make such a determination, so the point of reference should be something currenly in production and comparable to the RG570 - which would be an RG1570.

The only thing to worry about is the amount of insurance that was purchased - if any at all.

Oh, and I think the color might actually be rootbeer metallic - although I may be wrong.
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The sarcasm was indeed hard to detect, Kirk. I wasn't insulting your intelligence, btw. I though the " " was just you being a smart ass. Heh. Dammit, there's no way to tell what people are meaning by text alone. We need facial expressions, etc!
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Re: which rg is this?

they wouldnt give you the price to replace it with something comparable, they'll probably give you the book price on the same model in the described condition, the way most insurance works.
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Sometimes emoticons are almost as uselss as brain cells at a Phish concert.
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Re: which rg is this?

What insurance value was declared on the item? As far as I know, you can only claim the amount that it was insured for.

How can something of that size get lost, I mean really? I could see a CD sized package getting lost but something the size of a guitar? WTF are these people doing with these packages?
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What insurance value was declared on the item? As far as I know, you can only claim the amount that it was insured for.

How can something of that size get lost, I mean really? I could see a CD sized package getting lost but something the size of a guitar? WTF are these people doing with these packages?
I had a guy give me the wrong address, and after several weeks he still couldn't find it. Then it occured to him that the address on his pay pal account was old. He went to the old address and the package was waiting. Thankfully!

Dee, no sweat.
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Re: which rg is this?

WOW kirk, u are one lucky s.o.b.!!
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Re: which rg is this?

No doubt Kirk!!! That was lucky!
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