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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-08-2012, 01:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Hi there,

I'm pretty to all this stuff and was wondering which configurations my completely stock RG870z H/S/H is using in position 2 and 4.

I suspect it's splitting the humbucker and putting it in series with the single but I'm unsure.

I don't have enough tonal experience to determine if the sound is parallel or series and whether the humbucker's been split.

Series?
Parallel?
Split? if so which coil?

Thanks, just wondering...
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

couldnt tell you whether its series or parallel, but 2 and 4 will use the inner coil of the bridge or neck pickup, and the middle pickup. got a funny feeling that whenever ive seen the diagram its said split in parallel, but it could equally have not said that at all! :P
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couldnt tell you whether its series or parallel, but 2 and 4 will use the inner coil of the bridge or neck pickup, and the middle pickup. got a funny feeling that whenever ive seen the diagram its said split in parallel, but it could equally have not said that at all! :P
You got it right Ricky. they are in parallel.
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Cheers guys!

While I'm here, would you guys be able to tell me if I could split both the bridge and neck with one push-pull pot simultaneously. I'm reserving the other pot for parallel/series switch for position 2 and 4. (I heard simultaneous switching is the only way to do this with one pot)

So...

Normal (not split)
Position 1 = Neck H
Position 2 = Neck H + Middle S parallel
Position 3 = Neck S
Position 4 = Bridge H + Middle S parallel
Position 5 = Bridge H

Split
Position 1 = Neck S
Position 2 = Neck S + Middle S parallel
Position 3 = Neck S
Position 4 = Bridge S + Middle S parallel
Position 5 = Bridge S

And then the plan is to make the other pot swap everything that says parallel to series.

Is any of this possible?
And are these tones useable?
If not, I think I'll make another thread to get some ideas. Thanks.
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

yeah, you just need to have the switch ground the middle wire of the neck and bridge humbuckers. at least with my HH 5-way ibanez it worked like that. about the series to parallel switch that is advanced ****.
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Good, so the split is possible and easy.

Since I'm only going to pay someone else to do this for me, does it really matter that the series/parallel is a bit complicated?
Or is it more complicated than its worth?

I'm after a strat, 2 single coils in series sound in positions 2 and 4 when the pots are on split and series.

Series
Split = two singles in series. (STRAT)
Not split = humbucker and a single in series.

Parallel
Split = two singles i parallel (Current position 2 and 4)
Not split = humbucker and a single in parallel.
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

This is well beyond my wiring knowledge now. I can say that my friend is using a wiring system similar to what your looking for. It's on his RGT42 (H-H). He used two separate DPDT (on-on) mini switches to do it. One for splitting, one for phase.

FWIW, after everything he did trying to make the guitar more versatile I think it sounds thin and "empty"......there's so much going on in the signal path that the sound of the guitar and pickups is lost. He's using a Breed bridge and a Fred neck.....pups that normally have a lot of life to them.
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Thanks a lot for your opinion!

I think I'll scrap the series/parallel idea and just use the one pot for split switching.
That or dedicate each push/pull to a humbucker = more versatility I guess.

That way switching between [humbucker bridge] and [single neck/single middle in parallel] will be a simple flick of the blade.

Any other things that I can do with a push/pull?
I'm going out of my way for this mod and thought if I could do something, I might a s well do it now, ya know.
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......Any other things that I can do with a push/pull?.......
I'm pretty sure you can do a blower switch mod with one. That said, I backed out of that idea very recently myself - but it would be cool to know if anybody else tried it.

Also, what Ryc said is very valid about the possible tone suckage.
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Honestly, my favorite setup in an H-S-H is a three-way switch and a DPDT tap (or a push-pull on my H-H RGT). It's very simple but it gives a really nice variety of tones. I also use this setup on my H-H USA custom (middle position uses both inner coils).
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

I love the switching on my PRO540R!
A toggle for each pickup and a push/pull for the humbucker.
In fact, I was really playing thar one a bunch more than the others before I couldn't play for awhile.

For the OP--here's the switching options for your 870z






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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Am I right in saying that a blower switch bypasses the volume and tone pots for the bridge pickup?

Does it then switch to the bridge even if the selector is on the neck or middle?
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Am I right in saying that a blower switch bypasses the volume and tone pots for the bridge pickup?

Does it then switch to the bridge even if the selector is on the neck or middle?
Correct!
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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Sounds very useful without too much wiring.

Ideal. Thanks everyone. I think this issue is closed.

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Re: RG Stock 5 Way Pickup Configuration

Just a note on the parallel vs series queries.

The usual Strat 5 position switch offers neck and middle in parallel for position 2 and middle and bridge in parallel for position 4.

The series combinations can only be had with more complex wiring options - they sound very good btw, much more warm and humbucker-like in character.

If anyone is interested, there is a three switch wiring setup which was published by Guitar Player mag a good while back that allows all series and parallel combinations.
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