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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-13-2005, 07:57 PM Thread Starter
 
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RG2550E vs. RGA121

Hey,

I will be buying a new guitar soon and have narrowed down my search to these two models. The bridge type doesn't matter to me. For the record, I play metal but a good clean tone is a necessity.

Which do you suggest and why?
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-14-2005, 02:01 AM
 
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

Honestly, it comes down to whether or not you want a trem or a fixed bridge guitar. From a tonal standpoint, I think the RGA will have a "better" tone being made of mahogany and a very nice maple top. Of course, "better" is completely subjective. Of course, if you were just going to throw EMGs into the guitar, then it wouldn't matter much anyway. Personally, it all comes back to the trem. If you actually like floating trems and you'd use it, then go for the RG2550. But if you never use a trem in your music and don't want to deal with the added hassle then definitely go for the RGA.

I would personally get the RGA simply because I already have a guitar with a floating trem and I like to be able to change tunings on a guitar if the need arises without spending half the day re-adjusting everything.
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

Assuming they both sound equally good I would get the RGA because I prefer carved tops... more comfortable to me. Little bit different tone delivery too.
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-14-2005, 06:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

I am probably going to throw dimarzios into the RGA. If I get the RG2550 then I might just keep the stock pups in.

The trem, on the other hand, seems to be the deciding factor. At this point in time I do not use one. However, that can change any day.
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

Strangely enough, i have both of these guitars!

Basically, they are VERY different guitars. Now i know that technically they shouldn't be - same scale length etc... but somehow, whilst the RG2550E feels and sounds a bit cold and clinical - very 'technical' (very thin, fast neck) - the RGA121 is very warm, both in terms of tone and playability.

My RG2550E is a 2004 model, and the neck has a slightly gloss sheen to it - where the RGA's neck is a very smooth satin finish. I'm not sure if this year's 2550Es have the smooth finish of the RGA (the RG2620CBL i tried recently has it), but personally i prefer this to slightly shiny neck on my 2550E.

If it's a classic true RG-feeling guitar that you want, the RG2550E is definately in that category. It feels very precise and cutting - if you're going to be shredding mad fast metal style, then it's probably the one to go for. I dunno if it's the double-locking system, but it feels 'tight' if you know what i mean(!?) - i couldn't imagine many blues players using it, but it's ideal for stuff like Megadeth or Slayer or something.

The RGA feels a lot more like a worn-in vintage telecaster, bizarrely enough... but with a super-smooth, fast neck - and the RG scale length. I totally love mine. It's a joy to play, very versatile, and feels a bit more 'loose', a bit more alive, really. The carved top is really nice too - makes it feel more like an 'S' model... It's got a kind of 'springy' playability that most RGs i've tried don't have. But if you're just going to playing metal, despite what ibanez's literature says, the RGA to me seems far less suited to it than the RG2550E.

The stock pickups in both guitars weren't/aren't to my tastes - it's a fairly safe bet you're gonna want to change them for something a bit more specialised (i stuck some seymours - a JB and a Jazz - in my RGA and it sounds sublime) - I'd say though that the dimarzio/ibz pickups in the RG2550 are probably better than the V7/V8 that come with the RGA... a bit less muddy, a bit brighter and cleaner. Plus you get the single coil. But as lyconxero rightly points out, it's all subjective.

Hope this helps... Sorry if i rambled a bit, haha! the best idea really is to get down to a music store that has them and try them for yourself - see which you like better!

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post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-14-2005, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

You weren't rambling at all. The more info the better!

If I get the RG2550, I am going to take out the middle pick up. It is also going to get a paint job.

What attracted me to the RGA initially is that it only has 2 humbuckers, a prestige neck and nice look to top it all off. The only thing I am worried about is if I buy one and then regret having that bridge.

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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

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The only thing I am worried about is if I buy one and then regret having that bridge.
Well you see, that's why i got both! I'm thinking i might sell the 2550 in a few months actually though, simply because i barely use it any more having got the RGA which i love in a really unnatural, unhealthy sort of way...*ahem*! (Oh, and i'm pretty much broke at the moment! ) But i don't have the need for a whammy bar... never have really, since i learned to play on a les paul for years before i got these two babies. It's a bit of fun i guess - and you can get to a point where it becomes part of your playing style and gives you some more tricks for your repertoire, i guess.... hmm, i see your point - it's not an easy decision!

I'm sure whichever you decide upon you'll really enjoy - they're both great guitars in different ways, and in the end it's just going to come down to personal taste - i'd definitely reccommend trying them out before laying out the cash, even if you are going to buy by mail order

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post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-14-2005, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

Why can't I decide???

It's going to be a pain in the @$$ trying out those guitars. I have to order both in which will cost me a bit.

How stable would you say the Edge Pro is? I play one whole step down (DGCFAD).
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

I've got an RG1550 which is pretty similar to RG2550E apart from it has a maple neck and such. I love it. It's got a great neck (satin finish) and the Edge Pro really is quite reliable. I'm sure if you put studs or whatever in it'd be great.

If i was going to buy one of the other, i'd have to really think about it. I love playing whammy bars live, however, i recent times i've been thinking about getting a fixed bridge guitar to mess around with. Unfortunatly, i really can't live with a floyd sometimes. Whenever i'm playing, i sometimes subconciously find myself reaching for the bar to bend up or down and i know i'd have to get used to it with a fixed bridge.

Also, i'm used to bending harder because the Floyd's move when you bend. I tried out a Paul Gilbert Ibanez not too long ago and found it hard to get used to a fixed bridge and found myself overbending, so it really depends on what guitar you already own and are used to rather then what you can adapt to imho.


Saying that, i would probably go for the RGA because it's a nice change from all the Floyd, bassword heavy metal guitars i own and i need some guitars for messing around with, trying alternate tunnings, and generally taking to sessions and such.

I'm only saying that though because i allready own 3 double locking trem guitars.
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How stable would you say the Edge Pro is? I play one whole step down (DGCFAD).
Can't say i've tried downtuning the 2550E, i've so far been too lazy to try it (i just use the RGA for that stuff...)

With normal tuning though, the edge pro is great- on mine you can dive-bomb all you want, and i'd say 99.5% percent of the time it keeps perfect tune. And the rare occasions it does slip a bit, it tends to just be on one string... and not by very much. I would never have bought it if it didn't stay in tune - i'd played a load of floyd-rose type systems in the past, but none of them seemed to stay in tune - that's what always put me off the idea of an RG in the past. As long as it's well set-up, the strings properly stretched and the locking nut is nice and tight, you shouldn't have any problems with it. I've definitely been impressed with mine.
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

Would you say that both guitars are equally good for shredding, or does one rise above the other?
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

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Would you say that both guitars are equally good for shredding, or does one rise above the other?
Honestly, both are total shredding machines. However, as i say, the RGA feels a bit more like a vintage electric, rather than a technical metal guitar - a bit more loose, and i think probably more suited to funky bluesy-er rock styles than the RG2550 is. Having said that, both seem well suited for fast runs and general speed playing. I think that if i was asked to play some thrash or children of bodom kind of stuff (not that i *could* play any CoB, that guy is insane. ) , i'd likely reach for the 2550. Anything else, i'd go for the RGA because it just feels like home to me. I think it's mainly the neck thing that does it - the RGA neck is totally awesome, whereas the neck on my 2550 is simply very, very good. But i get the feeling that the neck on a new 2005 edition RG2550E will be probably the same basic neck as that of an RGA, so that shouldn't be an issue for you.

Sorry to not give you any straight-forward answers here! If all else fails, toss a coin or roll some dice or something, cos whatever you choose is going to be a damn good guitar

Good luck with it all! - i gotta go catch some zzzzzzzs!

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post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-14-2005, 08:46 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

LOL it's funny you mentioned that! Bodom is my favorite band and I do play there stuff! Wow, that was a shocker.
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post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 01:18 AM
 
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

To answer your previous question about changing the tuning, it shouldn't be a problem with either guitar. I tune my RG370DX a step down and it only required that I slightly adjust the intonation and even out the truss rod. Of course, I also increased my string gauge to compensate (I used to play 10s in standard and now I play 11s a step down).

But if you've never owned a guitar with a floating trem, then you'll have a lot of learning to do. DEFINITELY don't buy the RG2550 if you plan on changing tunings frequently because changing tunings on a guitar with a floating trem is a serious pain in the ass. Even switching from standard to drop D will have to re-adjusting every little thing on the guitar again. Of course, doing whammy tricks is fun as hell at times so it's a give and take type of thing. Personally, I think if your playing style is diverse enough to include both whammy and non-whammy aspects then I would need at least one guitar for each.

But like Average Jon said, either way you go you'll get an incredible instrument.
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post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-15-2005, 01:40 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: RG2550E vs. RGA121

I own a Jackson DXMG which has a trem. From what I hear, they are not the best trems out there.

My guitar is always in the same tuning so that's not a factor in this case. I just can't decide if I should buy a guitar with a floating trem. I don't use it much now but I might get into it.
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