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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-27-2015, 03:10 PM Thread Starter
 
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RG3120 high e string problem!

The high e string on my RG3120 is much closer to edge of the frets than the low e string causing the string slip off the fretboard with even the smallest amount of vibrato or slight mis-fret.

This has driven me to the point where I've considered selling the guitar because it is so frustrating, but before I do, does ANYONE have a suggestion on how this can be fixed? The trem and nut are set up correctly as is the true rod. The neck also appears very straight.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as this is starting to become a deal breaker with this guitar even though I love every other aspect of playing it. Thank you!
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Re: RG3120 high e string problem!

There is normally some room for adjustment if you loosen the neck screws. Loosen the strings first.

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The high e string on my RG3120 is much closer to edge of the frets than the low e string causing the string slip off the fretboard with even the smallest amount of vibrato or slight mis-fret.
yup... it's a very thin neck.. happens to me too. I thought it was due to my specific guitar but then it seems to be a more generic thing.

I kinda adjusted to it though.. but I don't apply lots of vibrato on the high E
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Re: RG3120 high e string problem!

My uv70p had the same problem. The cause was that due to the design of the AANJ there is less resistance on the treble side than the bass side, so the neck has the tendency to "fall" down a bit. The solution as just4kinks said is to loosen the strings and then unscrew the neck bolts, re-align and then screw tight (but not way too tight). I measured my clearance between neck heel pocket on the treble side and the neck heel and it is constantly about 0.1mm, which is a sign of a permanent fix, no matter the wild dives, pull ups, etc...
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Re: RG3120 high e string problem!

I got one guitar exactly like this, neck pocket is really tight, no room for adjustment.
found out that the source of the problem was the tremolo pivot is 1mm away to the right from where it should be.
Well, I'd guess I've got a lemon.
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I got one guitar exactly like this, neck pocket is really tight, no room for adjustment.
found out that the source of the problem was the tremolo pivot is 1mm away to the right from where it should be.
Well, I'd guess I've got a lemon.
Just by very lightly sanding the neck pocket to create room for the bass side of the heel, might prove enough to fix the problem without plugging re-drilling for the trem inserts. You might want to collect the dust from the sanding and glue it to the treble side of the neck, or keep it safely in its case if you feel paranoid enough
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Just by very lightly sanding the neck pocket to create room for the bass side of the heel, might prove enough to fix the problem without plugging re-drilling for the trem inserts. You might want to collect the dust from the sanding and glue it to the treble side of the neck, or keep it safely in its case if you feel paranoid enough
there is a less headache and less pain way to do this man....

sell the guitar... LOL
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^^^ Kids these days, looking for the easy way out!
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Re: RG3120 high e string problem!

it happened that my guitar with that kind of problem is my less significant guitar.
I don't plan to keep it forever, so this minor defect just adding another reason for its earlier departure..
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Re: RG3120 high e string problem!

Happens to me from time to time on my RGT3020. i feel like the neck is narrower than on other guitars.
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Re: RG3120 high e string problem!

Thanks for the replies.

I did try realigning the neck in the pocket but there is no play in the pocket to move the neck. Has anyone successfully tried sanding the pocket on the treble side to "cheat" the neck towards the treble side?
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I wouldn't recommend an amateur sanding the pocket, especially mahogany for the first time. Not that you can't do it.

I'd pull the trem out [with the strings on], take the strings off, and take it to Home Depot or Lowes and find a good pair of "cutting pliers". Grip the locator [curved] knife edge flush along the inside edge next to the saddle, and bite down hard before you pry the knife outward. Make sure the pliers are not slipping before prying, you only get one good shot at it virgin, and if you slide across the knife and it doesn't move, it will gouge and be very difficult to get good enough grip on it again. There is a detent in the knife that keeps it tight and it requires force to break the tension. You only need 1/2mm, but it's easy to tap it in if it's out too far when you install again.

That's the easiest way to fix that guitar.
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I wouldn't recommend an amateur sanding the pocket, especially mahogany for the first time. Not that you can't do it.

I'd pull the trem out [with the strings on], take the strings off, and take it to Home Depot or Lowes and find a good pair of "cutting pliers". Grip the locator [curved] knife edge flush along the inside edge next to the saddle, and bite down hard before you pry the knife outward. Make sure the pliers are not slipping before prying, you only get one good shot at it virgin, and if you slide across the knife and it doesn't move, it will gouge and be very difficult to get good enough grip on it again. There is a detent in the knife that keeps it tight and it requires force to break the tension. You only need 1/2mm, but it's easy to tap it in if it's out too far when you install again.

That's the easiest way to fix that guitar.
Awesome idea man, I've never even thought of trying to move an insert for alignment issues.......brilliant!

Do you use Dykes or or something like a fence nip?

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cutting pliers

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nice trick indeed.
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