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post #16 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-02-2001, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
 
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Nono, I mean they can play in baritone standard tuning, but not in BEADGBE(7string) because the longer neck gives higher tension for the thicker strings, or you have to lay really light strings on them. Otherwise you would stress the neck too much. Am I wrong?
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I don't see why you'd need light strings. *They have a longer scale on baritones, so that helps things balance out a little. *If you can have a 9 string bass that plays just fine and doesn't have neck problems... I think you can have any 7 string guitar/baritone work just fine and dandy.
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OK, for us Americans that don't have the full scoop yet, what IS standard barritone tuning?
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The baritone 6-strings are typically detuned a 5th. The lowE tuned to lowB, etc. I'm under the impression this is for detuning 7s, so you don't lose tone when you tune down.
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Wow... I completely misread that post... I believe most baritones are tuned C to C... I know some people do it B to B.. There have also been baritones that are tuned down an octave from standard guitar pitch... I don't know that these are "true" baritones, but that is what they are labeled as.
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Yeah, what Glen said... so if your standard Baritone is tuned B to B... then a 7-string would be tuned F# to B(low to high)?
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OK, so how do I play in E and A on one?? :biggrin:

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baritones are made for lower tunings, that would make it pointless to tune it like an ordinary 7-string. Besides the longer scale serves for keeping enough tension on the strings for ultra low tunings(so they have a tension like that of a normal guitar), you know when strings flop when you try to tune a normal .010 stringset to C, they flop. Now when you try to use a normal guitar tuning on a baritone would be like tuning a normal guitar UP to G or something, the neck can't handle that because of the tension. The same with a baritone if you tune it to normal guitar tuning. Try tuning your bass-guitar with his long scale up an octave to normal guitar tuning and you'll know what i mean, the neck will be ****ed.

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rich- are you going to NAMM this time around?
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To play Am Pentatonic stuff, you'd start on the 10th fret of what would normally be the low E string (of a 7-string). *:biggrin:

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Unfortunately no, unless something drastic happens to free up the cash and the time. I know what's going to be there and what's not. I'd really like the chance to see what'll be there, but know of at least 2 that will be there shooting lots of pics, Chris being one of them.

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please take some closeups(at least one full shot of the guitar, one closeup of the body and one closeup of the fretboard and headstock) *of the RG1077XL, RG7420XL(i don't care if it has a trs), and the K-7, make sure you get a good shot of that "ubar trem".

it would be really appreciated by myself and i'm sure by others.
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I have that ubar trem on video right here
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where do you have a video? it's not on your computer is it? what is it exactly? a modified edge?
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No, what I've seen: It's just a regular edge, but the tremolo bar is bent over the edge so, that you can give vibrato with your hand palm. Maybe they've perfected it by now, but that is what I see on the video. It's a Korn show at Pinkpop in the Netherlands this summer, only 5 months ago, so I think that's what they mean with the Ubar. I'm not a very big fan of Korn, but I had this on tape, and I remembered they had a weird tremolo. Can't figure out why their dreads don't get stuck in the strings though. *
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