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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-30-2013, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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s470 vs radius questions

I was looking at the '88 / '87 Radius' - most good ones seem to be around $800 plus and that's out of my budget. I know some have gotten them for under this, and I'm still looking.

Then I came across the s470 - seems very similar in ways, different in others. I had a chance to play a Radius and an s470 side by side at a local shop and the bodies and necks were very similar.

The pups configuration was different as well a the s470 has a strat-configuration for the guitar chord.

However, I'm seeing online that s470's cost less than 1/2 of what Radius typically seem to go for.

Was the Radius the pre-cursor to the s470 which was the pre-cursor to the Satriani models?

What are the differences in the guitars and is the Radius, per similar condition, really worth double?

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Re: s470 vs radius questions

The 540radius was the precursor to the JS.
The S has always been an S. Frank Gambale used to rock em.

The S is thinner, but not rounded.
The radius is completely rounded.
Radius has a different neck than the S' which use wizards.

They are both excellent guitars. The radius is in my opinion a higher quality piece but not by much. They make the s in several "grades" from "Cheap" up to "Cadillac."

You wont regret owning either model. I had a candy apple radius and I loved it. It made me feel like joe satriani when I was a kid. lol It was easy to play and it sounded nice.

But I want an S with the new ball bearing trem in a big way.
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Re: s470 vs radius questions

Oh...and the radius just like anything else is only worth what you are willing to pay.
600-800 for one in good shape would be honest, although there are some nice deals out there now...keep an eye peeled.
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Re: s470 vs radius questions

The S and the R are different guitars...similar, but different as described by POS RG. My opinion is decide on which body style/neck you like better and go for that. You're kind of comparing apples and oranges with the S470 and 540R, because you are comparing a cheaper S to a more expensive R. A better comparison would be a 540R and 540S/S540 and I think you'll find the price is similar. Just like the S470 is a cheaper version of say an S540, you may also find a 440R which is a cheaper version of the 540R.

Also IMO $800 is alot for a 540R, unless it's a rare color and/or a case queen or something. I'm not sure what your budget is, but if the R is the one you prefer I think you should be able to get into one for somewhere in the $350-$500 range. Same applies to the S...although the S has been produced longer than the R (which was discontinued when the JS was came around) so there may be more options if you like the S better.
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Re: s470 vs radius questions

$600-800 is high i think. I have bought and sold almost mint ones for 450-550 but i agree, they are worth what you are willing to pay.
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Re: s470 vs radius questions

You also HAVE to know what your looking at when it comes to an S470. The '92-'93 S470 were MIJ and, other than the pickups, were identical to the S540.

The '94 MIJ S470 came with a Lo-TRS.

'95-'01 were MIK. They came with a Lo-TRSII and crap pickups

There were a TON of S470 variants over the years (much like the RG470) so basically, you want to stay away from anything built after '93.
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Re: s470 vs radius questions

FWIW.... there's a '97 S540FM TT on my local craigslist now. They're asking $540 for what appears to be a pretty good condition guitar.
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Re: s470 vs radius questions

thanks everyone for the info.. it sounds like with either, stay pre '94 cause the s470 and Radius' were all MIJ ?
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