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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-24-2012, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
 
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Sanding a pattern into a guitar finish

I recently painted my RGT42 with black, then red enamel paint, with the ultimate goal being to sand parts of the red finish to create a mottled effect with the two colors. I started in dry sanding the back side by hand (just to see if it would work), used 220 grit to get through most of the red and 600 grit to try and come through more gently. So far the results have been underwhelming, with the revealed black looking more grayish with flecks of red, and the red surrounding the sanded patch turning an orangish pink. Has anyone ever tried this before, and am I going at it wrong? Or should I give it up and leave it red?
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We'd have to see pics of what you have and a better description of what you want for an end product.

This sounds like a cool idea, I just don't know what your aiming for.
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wet it and see the colors ,as paint tends to look weird when sanded before clear.
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Re: Sanding a pattern into a guitar finish

It sounds like what you are describing is a finish similar to popular Asian furniture, which is black with little hints of red showing through?

If so you did the coats reversed. You want the dominant color on top, so you can "fatigue" it for faint secondary color showing through. I think the way you did it, with red as a top coat and black underneath, red will be the dominant color of the guitar (from across the room it just looks red) and the black would be really really subtle. Generally this effect looks more dramatic if you have the bright color peeking through the black. The black peeking through is, as you described, underwhelming.
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Re: Sanding a pattern into a guitar finish

That's how they finished the Urushi's (there are dozens of layers, and a special kind of paint):



Also search for the RG-Paint models, not sure but I think they were done the same way.

Whatever you do, you'll have to choose a paint that cures completely between coats. If the top coat melts into the base coat, you won't get a good contrast.
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Re: Sanding a pattern into a guitar finish

Same as my RG Paints.. They are multi layered painted and then sanded in spots...
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Re: Sanding a pattern into a guitar finish

Sorry about the delay, I haven't had access to a camera. Well this is what I've done so far, and the pic at the bottom is where I got this sanding idea (this was posted by andyt a few weeks ago, I just clipped it). Not sure how to post the photos on here, dont have a photobucket account so I'm just posting the FB album.
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Re: Sanding a pattern into a guitar finish

Not really any insight to what you're doing but I just had to comment on that black and green guitar. that guitar looks sooooo badass
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That's how they finished the Urushi's (there are dozens of layers, and a special kind of paint):



Also search for the RG-Paint models, not sure but I think they were done the same way.

Whatever you do, you'll have to choose a paint that cures completely between coats. If the top coat melts into the base coat, you won't get a good contrast.
I love it every time this guitar is posted!!!!
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I would sand out the orange peel, do another coat of black, or maybe even do several more coats of each....then start to sand out your pattern. Also, I would use a lot higher grit than what your using now. I'd use 320 or higher wet or dry paper (using it wet).
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Re: Sanding a pattern into a guitar finish

IMHO: RGT looks so awesome when they're stripped down to wood, i'd sand it down and finish it with dye instead!

But that's just me!

As for orange peel, you need to let it dry and sand it with realy fine grit wet sand (i'd use 800+) between the layers to make it realy leveled. After, same goes for the lacquer and, in the end, you use some sort of coumpound to make it "glass like"
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IMHO: RGT looks so awesome when they're stripped down to wood, i'd sand it down and finish it with dye instead!

But that's just me!

As for orange peel, you need to let it dry and sand it with realy fine grit wet sand (i'd use 800+) between the layers to make it realy leveled. After, same goes for the lacquer and, in the end, you use some sort of coumpound to make it "glass like"
Polishing compound. Then, buff it out.



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