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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-10-2003, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
 
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Shiny improved MMM1...

I'd been feeling the stock pickups in my MMM1 were a bit too "rawk", given that I'm mostly fingerpicking and playing pretty clean with it.

Hey presto; add a superswitch, a Humbucker from Hell and a PAF Pro and it's a fantastic clean-machine. Took a bit of careful needle-file use on the pickup switch slot, but I think it looks rather nice.

Pickup combos are:

Bridge
Inner coils in parallel
Bridge and neck
Outer coils in parallel
Neck



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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-10-2003, 04:28 PM
 
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looks nice , very nice... :P
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I really like how that looks with the black open-coil pickups as opposed to the covered ones. Nice job!

Which pickup did you install in which position?
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I really like how that looks with the black open-coil pickups as opposed to the covered ones. Nice job!

Which pickup did you install in which position?
I was a bit worried about how it'd look, but I think it's even an improvement...

The HfH is in the neck and the PAF Pro in the bridge; that seemed appropriate given their outputs. Seems to work really well too; the PAF Pro has enough output to give some really nice dirty and distorted sounds, and the other positions are all very usable.

The stock pickups went into my girlfriend's Cort M200, where they sound fantastic - much better than they did in the MMM1!

The only problems were that the pickup switch slot wasn't straight to the mounting screws, and that the Superswitch is just enormous. I managed to get everything pretty neat inside though, and I'm very pleased with how it turned out.
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Looks great to me!!!

Is the neck scale the only difference between baritone and normal guitars?
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post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-10-2003, 11:03 PM
 
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well it looks alot better but i bet its alot more functional than ever now. any recordings of your clean tones
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Looks great to me!!!

Is the neck scale the only difference between baritone and normal guitars?
Fundamentally, yes, just the scale length and tuning. Baritones are typically 27" or 28" scale, though the OLP is an enormous 30". Schecter and Yamaha's are (I think) 26.5", which is a bit more manageable for some people, but I love the longer scale. Lovely clear notes too.

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well it looks alot better but i bet its alot more functional than ever now. any recordings of your clean tones
Not right now; I've just had to rebuild my PC. I'll see if I can get a few snippets done though. The extra positions definitely do add a lot of flexibility, and some lovely almost-acoustic like sounds too.
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post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-11-2003, 08:51 AM
 
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great job, Dot boy!
i love the MMM and i like your pickups choice and wirings. great job, man, really!
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post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-11-2003, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
 
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Cheers, Nuno. I'm mighty-pleased with it.

The UK catalogue actually lists the MMM1 as having a 5-way pickup selector, with some nice combinations. Shame it didn't come that way:

1: Bridge
2: Inner coils in parallel
3: Bridge & neck
4: Neck coils in parallel
5: Neck (series)

but at least it comes with a slot type switch. As I think I mentioned, it just takes a little careful straightening and opening out to fit the Superswitch.
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post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-11-2003, 11:44 AM
 
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That's interesting...weren't those PAF type pups in it originally? I would have thought they would have done clean pretty well. Anyway, your guitar looks nice.
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Yeah, i would have thought the Ibanez Super-58s the MMM pickups were based on would have been pretty decent. Maybe Mr. Mushok had them beef them up a bit too much.
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They weren't bad at all. But they just didn't "zing" quite as much as I wanted; I never had to turn the tone control down, and a couple of times I wanted to turn it up...

As I think I mentioned, the stock pickups sound absolutely excellent in my girlfriend's Cort; I'm wondering if they just weren't quite up to the low notes?
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Maybe Mushok just likes a darker-sounding guitar.

With all that mahogany, and the covered coils, the highs were probably dampened just a wee bit too much. But considering the number of prototypes and the time involved with making the MMM signature model, it probably turned out just how Mushok wanted it, though not necessarily to everyone's taste. I would probably make similar mods to yours if i got one, just to add some split/parallel options for more glassy/twang options when playing clean.

A clear-sounding humbucker will make a nice "bong" sound when played clean, but sometimes you want to have it go "gling" instead.
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Maybe Mushok just likes a darker-sounding guitar.

[snip]

A clear-sounding humbucker will make a nice "bong" sound when played clean, but sometimes you want to have it go "gling" instead.
I think you're spot on; I don't own any Staind but what I've heard the clean sounds have been quite mellow, whereas I've always liked my cleans pretty bright.

The MMM1 is still a fine instrument, stock or modified, and if I lost mine there'd be no question about it; I'd get another straight off.
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post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-24-2003, 09:44 PM
 
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i am intrested in the MMM1 model, and i have a couple of questions?

does it work well with standard tunning?

what strings do you put in, .009,.010?
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