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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 11-28-2017, 09:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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Substitute for Gibson SG?

I have a Gibson SG and I love to play it, but the constant going out of tune is drivning med nuts. Can anyone suggest a guitar that feels and plays lika a Gibson SG but that stays in tune?
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

which specific SG do you have? Not worth letting a guitar tech look at it? It should stay in tune simply put. It's too bad Ibanez doesn't make a weight-relieved double-cutaway solid body MIJ axe... the AR2619 is quite heavy like a LesPaul, compared to an SG . They share a similar neck profile. If you can find a used AR2000 they are fantastic... like a US-made SG.
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

Why not just replace your SG's tuners with locking ones?
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

MIght look into one of these
https://www.string-butler.com/

then you can keep your sg
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Thanks!!! You are awsome!
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

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which specific SG do you have? Not worth letting a guitar tech look at it? It should stay in tune simply put. It's too bad Ibanez doesn't make a weight-relieved double-cutaway solid body MIJ axe... the AR2619 is quite heavy like a LesPaul, compared to an SG . They share a similar neck profile. If you can find a used AR2000 they are fantastic... like a US-made SG.
Ibanez had SGs back in the lawsuit era, I've seen one before but they are REALLY hard to find.
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

Have you ever tried putting strings on the way Gibson says (or used to say)....first wrap over the top and then rest of the wraps underneath. I got rid of an SG for the same reason as you....replaced it with an SG like Vox SDC 55. Was also going out of tune. I tried the string change method that both Gibson and Vox said....and it worked amazingly well. Better than locking tuners, much more stable....and I HAVE used locking tuners on many guitars including SG's.
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

Tuning problems are almost always the nut, and Gibson never came with properly cut examples. You don't say how old the guitar is or if you have had a proper setup, but that is where I would start.
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

Have you ever tried an Ibanez S series with a fixed bridge? Super light like a Gibson SG but more stable tuning and much nicer feeling in your hands, in my humble opinion (but I'm partial to Ibanez necks and not a big fan of Gibson necks).

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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

As Aryton said newer Gibsons nuts are sometimes not perfect cause they're often PLEK'd without oversight (not the intention of the machine) so quite possibly the nut needs some adjustment.

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Ibanez had SGs back in the lawsuit era, I've seen one before but they are REALLY hard to find.
Yup they come up used in the US but SGs are plentiful here and their quality/warranty/etc. would make finding the Ibanez lawsuit models moot TBH. 42.8mm neck, 12"/305mm radius. I know many here get hung up on the wizard profile dimensions but really play something else for a month and you'll be like why did i imprison myself to the Ibanez wizard again?

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Have you ever tried an Ibanez S series with a fixed bridge? Super light like a Gibson SG but more stable tuning and much nicer feeling in your hands, in my humble opinion (but I'm partial to Ibanez necks and not a big fan of Gibson necks).
[url=http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/S421]S421 | Ibanez Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia[/url
Altogether different guitar and much flatter fretboard. I'm not sure many SG players wants a body-hugging hike it up to your neck style fusion axe but your point is good and worth considering... likewise a fixed bridge JS is always as much a no-brainer as they come (just harder to find and more $)
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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

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Have you ever tried an Ibanez S series with a fixed bridge? Super light like a Gibson SG but more stable tuning and much nicer feeling in your hands, in my humble opinion (but I'm partial to Ibanez necks and not a big fan of Gibson necks).

S421 | Ibanez Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia
I'm glad you mentioned that one... I recently ran across an S521 and have been considering one, but I like the Gibraltar bridge better on the S421.


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Re: Substitute for Gibson SG?

well if you dead set on getting another guitar, the epiphone elitist line are Japanese made and can be be found for reasonable considering they are a more consistent build that any of the Gibson stuff.

https://reverb.com/item/7494035-epip...-made-in-japan
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