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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-01-2013, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
 
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Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

I have an incoming NGD, but would like to know more about it. I mean I know its a "real" esp M-II Deluxe custom and that it is pre 1993, but I would like to narrow down the year and name of graphic etc. I also have some trem questions, etc. I will post some pics if an expert chimes in, otherwise I will just post an NGD when it shows up.
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-01-2013, 10:06 PM
 
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

I'm no ESP expert, but is the trem on there NOT original floyd?
before using original floyd, they use OEM trem named 'sinclair' or something..
ugly trem for sure.
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post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-01-2013, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

This one does not have the sinclaire (sp?). From what I have read they put out an esp stamped german made floyd licensed. Im inclined to think its a schaller like the Jacksons used back then, but I would like to confirm so I know what parts are compatible. I don't have it in hand yet so I can't inspect it, but thats what the pictures looked like.
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

Great!
I had the sinclair on my '80 Mirage custom. I used to email the ESP Japan CS back then.
from the serial number I'd given to them, they can't tell the specific information about the guitar : which custom shop made it? what is the original spec, etc..
this is what they told me : your ESP was made in one of our custom shop, we don't have specific order serial number back then, so we can't trace your guitar based on the sn.
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post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-01-2013, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

Here are the crappy pics I got:






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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

It isn't a Sinclair trem. The base plate is somewhat diamond-shaped on those.

The graphic is very similar to the cover of Def Leppard's Adrenalize album, which came out in 1991.

Very cool.
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

yeah, it's like the jackson graphic on it.
could it be aftermarker modification?
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

Yes...someone on another forum just pointed that out. It is in fact the cover art for adrenalize. So that means its either a 91 or 92 since they stoped using the esp stamped trem in 92.
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

This is actually a copy of one of Phil Collen's Jackson's.
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

I was assured it was a factory finish and after searching for sometime I found another one with the same graphic, although no other info was found with that pic. If it was aftermarket it was a pro job, with painting the pickups and everything.
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

I love the way it looks, hopefully I will like how it plays. I am a little less excited to know its a copy of a Jackson though, probably not the greatest for collectible value. At least if I don't like it, I can return it as I got it from GC.
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

It's a lovely guitar, besides the trem, I would not change anything about it.
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

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It isn't a Sinclair trem. The base plate is somewhat diamond-shaped on those.

The graphic is very similar to the cover of Def Leppard's Adrenalize album, which came out in 1991.

Very cool.
good call, as soon as i saw it, I was like,, That's the cover of that horrible D.L. album.

nice guitar though!
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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

Here he is with his actual guitar:



Someone said it's a Dinky.

But this ESP looks more similar to this one, which may or may not have been Phil's:



I'm still kicking myself for not buying this M-II Custom a couple years ago. Supposedly one of Michael Wilton's actual guitars. THAT is the Sinclair trem.

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Re: Are there any 80's ESP experts in the house?

is there any reason for having a slanted pickup like that, other than it was the 80's?
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