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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-05-2011, 06:17 AM Thread Starter
 
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Are there any real differences between higher and lower priced Prestiges?

Just something I've been wondering about. Are there any real differences between lower and high priced Prestige RGs? I've got an RG1570, and I love it, but I often see it described as the low end of the prestige line, and some people seem quite snobby about it. Surely the higher end guitars still use the exact same basswood bodies and maple necks?

I understand that the higher end Prestiges come fitted with Dimarzios, which is something I've done to my 1570, but surely the price jump from the 1570 to the Dimarzio fitted models can't be justified by the addition of £200 worth of pickups?
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Re: Are there any real differences between higher and lower priced Prestiges?

in my point of view, there are no significant different of quality between RG1XXX series to RG 2XXX.
Same prestige line, same material, but RG 2XXX got Dimarzio made pickups, some inlays, fancy finishes, maybe fretbaord binding. That's all.
With installing the Dimarzio on your 1570 of course make your guitar at the same league as the RG 2XXX. But we must admit that those inlay and binding works must added some cost to the selling price, but not making it at 'higher level'.

on the other hand, RG3XXX has super wizard neck and real dimarzio pickups, inlays and binding might be the same with RG 2XXX.
I can't say this is 'better' in quality, but obviously people praised the super wizard neck, so it makes the RG3xxx is in more 'respectable' level.

based on my experience in buying and selling stuffs, putting a real dimarzio to some guitar won't increase the value too much.
buyer will see it as a bonus and more reason to buy it from you. but pricewise ? they will expect the street value of an used RG 1570.
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Re: Are there any real differences between higher and lower priced Prestiges?

There is a reason that the RG1570 today and the RG550/570 of old have always been very popular guitars. They offer tremendous value for what they are, particularly if you are the type of person to upgrade pickups. The pickups are the obvious weak point of the guitar.
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Just something I've been wondering about. Are there any real differences between lower and high priced Prestige RGs? I've got an RG1570, and I love it, but I often see it described as the low end of the prestige line, and some people seem quite snobby about it. Surely the higher end guitars still use the exact same basswood bodies and maple necks?

I understand that the higher end Prestiges come fitted with Dimarzios, which is something I've done to my 1570, but surely the price jump from the 1570 to the Dimarzio fitted models can't be justified by the addition of £200 worth of pickups?
well there are a couple of other things. the thinner neck on the 35XX series, and the binding and inlays, and you may get a headstock/body match, but apart from that the guitars are the same. the 15XX guitars are the same overall quality in terms of finishing as their more expensive cousins. as TaR said, if you're going to swap pups anyway, get the 1550 or 1570, they're great value.
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There is a reason that the RG1570 today and the RG550/570 of old have always been very popular guitars. They offer tremendous value for what they are, . . .
I agree with this. I think the "entry-level" Prestiges are the sweet spot of the entire range in terms of value for money.

Since I bought my 550 in 2007 (for $900!) everything else has been either:

A) not as good or

B) just as good or perhaps better, but much more expensive.

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Re: Are there any real differences between higher and lower priced Prestiges?

Once you go J Custom, you never go back
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Re: Are there any real differences between higher and lower priced Prestiges?

My 02 cents, I have a 09 1550 which I did swap pups out with Dim EVO's. A friend of a friend has a 2010 RG2550 with the stock Dim/Ibz pups in which he paid 400 dollars more for and he likes my 1550 better. As far as feel, playability etc etc, I don't notice any big difference to write home about between the 2. Now both are great guitars in my opinion, I don't really like either one better or worse then the other. I do believe his stock pups sounded better then mine did, but not since I added the EVO's .
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My 02 cents, I have a 09 1550 which I did swap pups out with Dim EVO's. A friend of a friend has a 2010 RG2550 with the stock Dim/Ibz pups in which he paid 400 dollars more for and he likes my 1550 better. As far as feel, playability etc etc, I don't notice any big difference to write home about between the 2. Now both are great guitars in my opinion, I don't really like either one better or worse then the other. I do believe his stock pups sounded better then mine did, but not since I added the EVO's .
I agree completely. my 2550 is much better now I changed the stock pups for better ones. I sometimes wonder if Ibanez should offer a Prestige RG without any pickups in it.
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I agree completely. my 2550 is much better now I changed the stock pups for better ones. I sometimes wonder if Ibanez should offer a Prestige RG without any pickups in it.
I think your on to something here, in the Prestige line that's their only downfall is the pups in the 15xx and 25xx line.
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Re: Are there any real differences between higher and lower priced Prestiges?

Thanks for clearing that up, I suspected that the differences were mainly cosmetic (binding, inlays and such) although I guess some of the higher end prestiges also come with maple tops, so that'll have some influence on tone, but if it's just a veneer then I'm guessing it's mainly cosmetic as well.

Unfortunately I'm one of those people that's never happy with their sound, so while I've got an Evo2, HS3 and FRED in the 1570 at the minute I'm thinking of changing them out at some point :/
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Thanks for clearing that up, I suspected that the differences were mainly cosmetic (binding, inlays and such) although I guess some of the higher end prestiges also come with maple tops, so that'll have some influence on tone, but if it's just a veneer then I'm guessing it's mainly cosmetic as well.

Unfortunately I'm one of those people that's never happy with their sound, so while I've got an Evo2, HS3 and FRED in the 1570 at the minute I'm thinking of changing them out at some point :/
Man I feel your pain....... I'm pretty sure I've spent more money on pickups and electronics than I've ever spent on guitars.....lol
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Re: Are there any real differences between higher and lower priced Prestiges?

It's far too easy to do, I'm thinking about changing to an Air Norton in the neck (The FRED is a bit too trebly) and something with lower output in the bridge, possibly a Tone Zone.
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Warning!!! the Tone Zone is HOT!! 375mV.... same as your Evo2
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Hmm, does it sound less 'spiky'? The Evo2 has quite a bit of treble and high mids...
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Hmm, does it sound less 'spiky'? The Evo2 has quite a bit of treble and high mids...
No, the Tone Zone is geared more towards the lo-mids and mids
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