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Unknown Ibanez What is it?

Can anyone tell me what this guitar is?

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Looks like a BCRich Mocking Bird... weird!
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I am trying to get a pic of the headstock. They say its an Ibanez but I have been through all the catalogs and cant find it.
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http://www.ibanez.co.jp/anniversary/..._id=279&now=11

2007 model? It seems to have been released along with the Xiphos under the X Series.

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I remember these. The ADD120. The arondite's only lasted one year. They weren't very popular. It's an entry level guitar with a lot of potential. You can find them pretty cheap, but they need a lot of upgrades to make them worth keeping.

The Mohag body and set neck are a nice feature to base a custom off, IMO.
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That has all the features of a mid to late-2000s budget or moderately priced Ibanez.

At first I thought maybe the body was from somewhere else and this was some sort of fake, but it's totally legit. The tuners, headstock name and small logo, and dual blades are all Ibanez. It could be something that was a test bed for a NAMM show and thus extremely rare. Until you find out what it is, hang onto it at all costs as some collector somewhere will pay far more for it than you did if it proves to be an unreleased item.

I used to go to a small vintage store that specialized in rare, unreleased, NAMM, and one of a kind stuff and they charged plenty for it knowing there were collectors out there with tons of cash going for bragging rights. One poster here appeared to have what could be prototype Shaw PAFs in an early-80s Gibson (those would have to be checked but they may have been made at his own house in Elgin, IL and if they have wildly different readings and/or no serial, then they could be onto something) and the price on something that iconic is basically subject to insane bidding war.

As Ibanez collectors are starting to raid the internet, what one collector is willing to pay out in cash (if he/she has lots of it) will surprise you. Some Ibanez lawsuit instruments, before they got really good, are quite rare and not the best but they often fetch prices higher than a same period Fender or Gibson that it set out to copy.

The typical new instrument dealer will not have the time, expertise, or patience to check out if a rare guitar is a one of a kind NAMM show item, and they may not care. But historically, those unreleased instruments which tell the story of Ibanez in their successes and failures, and in this case probably a failure) are what Ibanez collectors live for. I was mostly a Gibson and Fender collector, but the current Ibanez collectors are no less brainwashed, aggressive, and infected with GAS.
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Wow, though I have never seen this model, I think this is exactly what it is:

Ibanez Arondite

scroll down page halfway

http://www.ibanezicemanforsale.com/I...-Sale_843.html

That particular model is a set neck but they probably come set neck and bolt-on
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Yep, thats it. Interesting, I have not seen that model before.

I did not think it was anything close to current like 2006. I was looking for a beater guitar and it piqued my interest.

Its got a big neck, 58, 20, 22.5 with a 12" radius. I might just pick it up to see how the neck feels for the JS's I'm building.

Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep, thats it. Interesting, I have not seen that model before.

I did not think it was anything close to current like 2006. I was looking for a beater guitar and it piqued my interest.

Its got a big neck, 58, 20, 22.5 with a 12" radius. I might just pick it up to see how the neck feels for the JS's I'm building.

Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think if it's like my Artcore, it could be Chinese made and those tend to have the thicker necks. If you are used to vintage Fender and Gibson stuff, it's not so bad but it's not a super slim Wizard neck.

The MIJ and Korean Ibanezes tend to have the slimmer necks which are a little faster.

I went through the '80s like most guitarists who got fed a diet of Jacksons, Charvels, and RGs and believed thinnest was always best but these days both types of necks (slim and vintage) are acceptable and neither are deal breakers. I don't see players shaving down their Gibson necks, like Jimmy Page and others did, in order to make it faster. Those Chinese, and some Indonesian necks are a lot like the '50s Gibson necks which were fatter and they are more than adequate. Often it's the player who is "slow" and not the neck per se.

It took me awhile to get used to my boat neck (anything in or around 1" inch deep on 12th fret) on my Artcore, but once I got used to the bigger dimensions, it was OK and I don't think about it anymore.

It this neck on your guitar a bolt-on Ibanez neck
you could use for a JS body? It looks like it's black on a silver body so it makes sense that it's not a set in with those finish options based on what I can see unless it is a black neck set into a silver body which is not that common. Do you have a pic?

Also if that neck is 25.5 inch scale, it would work better with a JS body. That 3+3 slimmed down headstock would look righteous on a JS body.

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I was gonna say it looked like a reshaped destroyer
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It this neck on your guitar a bolt-on Ibanez neck[/B][/I] you could use for a JS body? It looks like it's black on a silver body so it makes sense that it's not a set in with those finish options based on what I can see unless it is a black neck set into a silver body which is not that common. Do you have a pic?

Also if that neck is 25.5 inch scale, it would work better with a JS body. That 3+3 slimmed down headstock would look righteous on a JS body.
It is a set neck so it wont work but the thought did cross my mind. Since I am going to have custom necks made, I want to actually own a guitar with those specs. On the hardtail, I am going wider, thicker. On the trem guitar I am going more Super Wizardish.
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It is a set neck so it wont work but the thought did cross my mind. Since I am going to have custom necks made, I want to actually own a guitar with those specs. On the hardtail, I am going wider, thicker. On the trem guitar I am going more Super Wizardish.
Does the black finish on the back of the neck gradually fade to the silver of the body? That would be amazing.

The only other guitars I know of with set neck of different color than body would be something like the current Epiphone Casino that has the white maple top, sides, and back with a brown mahogany neck set into the body. It looks pretty sharp.
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I do not know, I cant see the back. FOund out it was at a pawn shop. I dont like how the strings line up on and being a set neck means there is not pocket adjustment.
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I do not know, I cant see the back. FOund out it was at a pawn shop. I dont like how the strings line up on and being a set neck means there is not pocket adjustment.
The string/neck alignment looks ok to me, it's just missing the high-E. For the right price (under $200?) I'd love to play with one of these guys. The only thing I'd worry about is possible pup choices. Those VIK's have an odd form........... They look similar to 8-string EMG bodies.
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