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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-20-2011, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
 
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Upgrading to a higher level RG

I play an Ibanez RGT6EXFX ($899.00). Not happy with the tone. This has the EMG pickups, but sounds muddy and thin. The playability of the fingerboard is awesome though.

I want to move to another RG model. What is the next recommended level? Would a RG1570 make a whole lot of difference or should I consider higher level models like the RG3570?

I play it through a THD Univalve amp with a couple of distortion units. I also have a Fender American deluxe Strat. The Fender tone is awesome through the same setup, but not as fast as the RG neck.

Thanks for any recommendations.
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post #2 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-20-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

an rg3570 is the same guitar as the rg1570 but with nicer features and a bigger price. but the trem, nut, tuners and other hardware are the same. Oh' and the rg3570 comes with real dimarzios.

but that RGT is a pretty nice guitar. why not just pay $150 for new pickups instead of $1000+ for a new guitar?
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post #3 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-20-2011, 09:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

Ahh...thanks for the cost savings tip. Never thought of the PU upgrade option. The RGT has a straight-through neck and was also not sure if the wood made a difference in the RGT and RG1570 mods.

Would you recommend these over the pickups in the RG3570: http://www.dimarzio.com/pickups/humb...per-distortion


Thanks.
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depends. What kind of music do you play? and through what amp? do you detune? these are all questions that will lead us to your right tone.

and its a maple neck through with mahogany body wings
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

Rock/Metal.
For clean tones I will use the Strat.
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

I was reading reviews on this model and disappointed to find that everyone liked the "sound". Actually it does not sound of good quality, though the playability is awesome.

I am sure sound is subjective, but it does sound thin.
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depends. What kind of music do you play? and through what amp? do you detune? these are all questions that will lead us to your right tone.

and its a maple neck through with mahogany body wings
I use a THD Univalve through a Mesa Boogie 2x12. I alternate between the EL34 and KT6.

Mostly play Rock and do not detune.
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

Try some different pickups, if the guitar plays well, but the tone when plugged in is lacking try some different pickups. Try a DiMarzio Super Distortion in the bridge, maybe a PAF Pro in the neck.
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

Who's Tone do you like for a dirty sound?
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post #10 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-21-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

I'd look at your overall set up. EMG 81/85 combo shouldn't sound particularly muddy or thin. Amp, EQ, effects and almost everything else will have a greater effect on "muddy" or "thin" tone more so than a new guitar.
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

id say youre right on the money with the super distortion in the bridge. and for the neck, id go for something a bit brighter. maybe a d-activator neck. yea, that sounds pretty nice.

Super Distortion bridge
D-Activator Neck.

or you can but a d-activator in the bridge as well. your choice.
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

FWIW.......I had an RGT42FM that I replaced all the electronics and the pups on. I used a 3-way Tele switch, put in a DPDT mini switch (for splitting) and 500k CTS pots. I hooked this up to a DiMarzio Fred in the bridge and a PAF Joe in the neck. When I was done I had the best tone of my life.....I STILL regret selling that one.
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Who's Tone do you like for a dirty sound?
Sweet sustain with lots of harmonics
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Re: Upgrading to a higher level RG

Thanks all.
I have tried adjusting the tone controls, but adding mids seems to diminish the harmonics quite a bit....
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an rg3570 is the same guitar as the rg1570 but with nicer features and a bigger price. but the trem, nut, tuners and other hardware are the same. Oh' and the rg3570 comes with real dimarzios.

but that RGT is a pretty nice guitar. why not just pay $150 for new pickups instead of $1000+ for a new guitar?
+1. Try changing the pups first
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